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SLSmith (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:30 PM Original message |
FEIN: Obama has gone BEYOND Bush Cheney - State Secrets, Detainees, Habeas Corpus |
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libertypirate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
1. It takes loosing sometimes in order to win /nt |
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Papa Boule (363 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:54 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Yes. Doubledy super secret eleventy mentional chess n/t |
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Titonwan (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:06 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. That's what Obama apologists think, yes. |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
2. Who can defend these actions? Who would want to? n/t |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 01:23 PM Response to Original message |
3. Psychology of empire....interesting term. |
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mikehiggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
5. Somehow, I don't buy it |
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Piewhacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. On the other hand, |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 06:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
31. agreed, the "turning the ship" excuse is just that, an excuse... |
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givemebackmycountry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. MIke - I can understand what your saying here... |
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greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 10:42 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. We got *$#%$^ snakes on the plane! n/t |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 08:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. There is a lot of momentum in this system |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 04:21 PM Response to Original message |
7. WHO is this? Bruce Fein, former deputy attorney general under Reagan |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. I've been to hear Fein speak twice. He's a dedicated constitutionalist. Period. He was all |
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tnlefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. He and John Dean were both out there about abuse of power, |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 03:32 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. yes and you don't make up your mind in 4 mos |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 11:36 PM Response to Reply #20 |
60. Reagan admin one of the most corrupt in history |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-05-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Any attempts to discredit Fein on Constitutional facts, or paint him as corrupt |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-05-09 01:40 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. he's a republican for a reason |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-05-09 03:56 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. So you are saying he's without merit because of his party affiliation? |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-05-09 04:01 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. you figure it out ,as much corruption as he's seen coming from the right |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-05-09 04:04 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Or your party affiliation blinds you to consider anything |
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pschoeb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #7 |
41. Actually wikipedia claims associate deputy attorney general in 1981-82 |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. Obama is a feel good politician to fool the people...How else could they have just given TRILLIONS |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. This is all very disappointing. ...n/t |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. This is all very disappointing |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 03:33 AM Response to Reply #10 |
30. this guy i s trying to say Obama is worse than Bush/Cheney thats pure BS |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
57. Personally, Obama continuing wars and bailouts hurt me more than Bush and Cheney ever did. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. listen to yourself its been 4mos and you're saying Obama is worse than Bush ? |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
11. He inherited these court cases, and each get struck down and Obama |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
12. A Reagan appointee is bashing a Democrat. Why am I not surprised? |
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JayMusgrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 08:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. Yeah, I never heard such bullshit in my life....and where did Reagan |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:33 AM Response to Reply #15 |
37. Yea ...you're just what we need here to stop all the ignorant posters. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 11:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. OOPS! |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 06:29 AM Response to Reply #12 |
32. but if a reagan appointee were supporting obama... |
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JayMusgrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
16. Please google all the people you quote and want us to |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. We all know Obama doesn't want to "look back"...He should be asking for their heads! |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Clinton didn't hold Poppy Bush accountable |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. So you're saying after eight years of Bush crossing the line to go against us... |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 07:52 AM Response to Reply #23 |
36. No, that's not what I said at all. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 11:45 AM Response to Reply #22 |
47. NO! |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Thank you |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:36 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. There has always been a gray area between.... |
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firedupdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 10:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. +1 |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 06:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
33. wow, and you dare call someone else uneducated. nt |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
46. Who are you talking to? |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-03-09 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
17. I really hate it when |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
26. Why isn't that in the transcript? |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 01:59 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. The transcript doesn't include the "web extra" |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #27 |
43. Why, indeed. Thank you, Senator. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 03:30 AM Response to Original message |
28. So now we have the whole rightwing talking about how much abusive the Obama admin is and |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 06:33 AM Response to Reply #28 |
34. excuse mongering. full up here. nt |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 07:38 AM Response to Original message |
35. I despised Fein in th 90's for his contributions to the character assassination of |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
38. Bruce Fein on the Supreme Court would be a real check & balance. |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 11:35 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. be for real the guy can't even register independent to protest the crap the repubs |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
39. You really think he's gonna tell you? |
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nickgutierrez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
40. All the easier for the court to strike that stuff down. |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
42. An undocumented, opinionated "chat" on PBS. In that case let's go back to bush, okay? |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 11:02 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. I sort of understand the desire of certain elements to see more rapid change. But! |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #44 |
48. My sentiments exactly.... |
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axollot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 10:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Why do people *want* a 'bananna republic'?! 100 days....THE WHOLE WORLD FIXED! |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
51. Then let me start the conversation with a question. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. They both suck. Which is worse for you -- marital rape or addictive masturbation? |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I see. |
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Buzz Clik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Indeed I do! Yours was a work of art. |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
49. Why don't you state specifically HOW Obama has gone beyond bush/Cheney? |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Again, WHO are you talking to? |
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George II (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-05-09 09:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. Follow the dotted line UP to the post I'm talking to.... |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-04-09 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
62. I watched the video, love Moyers, but found this to be lacking |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-05-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #62 |
68. INDEED And, watch the entire program, no just this little excerpt. LINKS: |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-05-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Can you summarize? I can't watch it right now. |
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