Obama Birth Certificate Q&A for Gibbs at White House -GOP Looking Like Fools

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The far-right wingers have continued to define the Republican Party - because they ARE the Republican Party. They will be all that is left after these crazy folks continue to espouse conspiracy theories, etc against their opposition. The fact that this dolt made it all the way to the White House Press Briefing only shows what idiots are following the GOP nutbags into their continued loss of credibility.

* notice the youtube video title, posted by one of the nutjobs themselves - if only they knew how goofy it makes them look alas

I guess they don't understand that this makes them look like wingnuts and is further alienating the moderate republicans and independents. But, have at it hoss, as Cenk says.

And there's nothing the Right can do about it.

We got away with this.

Suck it, freepers.

I would be embarrassed to ask Obama's press secretary this while on camera. How do these people get in the briefing room?

You ask, "How do these people get in the briefing room?" The related question is: Once in, how did that reporter get called on to ask a question?

I'd love to know which media outlet credentialed that questioner.

I replayed it and realized he said "burgeoning birth controversy", but it would have been clever of Robert Gibbs to suggest that perhaps Republicans wanted proof that Barack Obama's mother wasn't (or was?) a virgin.

Some people are saying the president was born on Tralfamador, while others insist it was Remulak. We need to know whether or not our president is an alien.
As the Republicans flail in a desperate death throe the rest of the world moves on.
As they try to resurrect the Confederacy, the Republican Party sinks further into oblivion. Next thing they'll be selling is flat earth theory.

Right along with (un)Intelligent Design.

it's all part of the same meme... don't trust textbooks or universities as they are stuffed with liberal thought. Don't value education at all... starve the school system or homeschool with your own moronic thought... don't teach critical thinking.

Republicans would have to leave the planet.

where I live. Many parents don't want their kids exposed to anything and they try and block it from everyone's vision. They quietly get educational materials restricted and cancelled in the school class rooms and those of us who want our kids educated don't even know that these materials have been eliminated becasue of complaints. They get their "members" working in key positions to quietly direct education and what is allowed. They threaten to home school their kids if the school allows any of this stuff. While those of us who are reasonable and donate money to support all students, coach all students encourage all students lose out because we are not threatening to withhold money and we're not unified (in a church group). In our school a school nurse got in trouble for handing out literature about birth control to a teenager they knew was sexually active. We had 20 pregnant teens in our high school this year and we have around 600 students in our school. Somehow the liberals need to unify and get a plan or their going to be teaching intelligent design instead of biology!

Why does it matter to these fools where HE was born? Isn't the fact that his mother was American born enough by itself?

The rule for becoming president is that you be a natural born citizen. As I understand it, the problem is this: his dad was not a American, therefore he might not have been an American citizen at birth if born on some other soil than that of the U.S. If one of parent is foreign then the US citizen parent has to meet requisite time of residence in the actual U.S. He would be an automatic U.S. citizen if both parents had been U.S. citizens. But then there is that sticky issue of "natural born citizen" as a special requirement for President as compared to U.S. citizenship. That "natural born" part usually implies you have to actually be born on U.S. soil, even if it's an embassy or, like McCain, a military base.

If he's born on U.S. soil--which he was!--than it's a moot point. If he wasn't, then it becomes an issue.

Needless to say, the freepwipes had no problem with that-- probably b/c they were planning to have him offed by divine intervention after the inauguration (which they were ACTUALLY and OPENLY praying for last fall) so Queen of the Dipsticks Palin could be come Fundie President Barbie.

Do you seriously believe that he has a birth certificate containing his doctor's name? The same is true for many of our presidents. They were not born in hospitals under sanitary conditions.

If you are born anywhere and one of your parents is an American citizen, you may obtain American citizenship.

The whole hullabaloo is just stupid.

Berry punny.

With drug resistant staph, strep and whatever else is infesting hospitals these days, it's a wonder women aren't choosing to give birth in the woods.

And Lincoln was born in a log cabin in Illinois which solves his problem.

But the Founding Fathers did not want Rupert Murdoch to rule the United States and took steps to prevent it. No loyalty to any other soil.

that the birth had to be in the U.S.

"Natural born" is generally used to mean born by from the biological mother.

That anyone born in the U.S. who was orphaned and adopted by any other U.S. parent could never be President and I seriously doubt that's what anyone meant by "natural born." It certainly isn't what John Jay meant. He's the likely source for the rule. Quote from Wiki:

"One possible source of the natural born citizen clause can be traced to a letter of July 25, 1787, from John Jay (who was born in New York) to George Washington (who was born in Virginia), presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention. John Jay wrote: "Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen."

Thus, Jay, at least, sees it as meaning that the President needs to be born in the U.S., not be from some other country. The founders were very paranoid and suspicious of foreign influence.

at birth regardless of the citizenship of the parents. Therefore with regard to an adopted child, it would be a natural born citizen if it were naturally born within the U.S. even if it is adopted after birht.

If a child is born outside of the U.S. and one of its parents is a U.S. citizen, that child is also a citizen at birth, a natural born citizen. I should know. I have two such children born to me while I lived outside the U.S.

A child that is born outside the U.S. and then adopted by an American citizen is not a natural born American citizen because it was neither born within the U.S. nor to an American citizen living abroad.

Do you think that the child born to an American in the armed forces living in Germany is any less a natural born citizen just because it is born in a German hospital in Bavaria?

You said that the issue was about adoption. You didn't specify adoption of a foreign child. You just said it's about adoption, and it's not. It's about birth on U.S. soil. As for your children being "natural born" because you're a U.S. Citizen...not necessarily so.

"Birth Abroad to One Citizen and One Alien Parent in Wedlock: A child born abroad to one U.S. citizen parent and one alien parent acquires U.S. citizenship at birth under Section 301(g) INA provided the citizen parent was physically present in the U.S. for the time period required by the law applicable at the time of the child's birth. (For birth on or after November 14, 1986, a period of five years physical presence, two after the age of fourteen is required. For birth between December 24, 1952 and November 13, 1986, a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen are required for physical presence in the U.S. to transmit U.S. citizenship to the child."

This is in regards to U.S. citizenship. But we are talking about a specific requirement for the president which is "natural born" citizenship. Which seems to mean being born on U.S. soil. Period. Never mind if your parents were U.S. citizens. You ask: "Do you think that the child born to an American in the armed forces living in Germany is any less a natural born citizen just because it is born in a German hospital in Bavaria?"

Well, I don't. But it's not my call. McCain who was born in a Panama hospital, to Americans in the armed forces, had to get that question answered by the courts before he could run for president. The rule may be stupid and silly, but there is it. It stands and it is an impediment to anyone who wasn't born on U.S. soil who wants to run for president. If they run, this issue will come up and they may be disqualified for, yes, being born in a Bavarian hospital. Never mind if their parents are U.S. Citizens who can trace their bloodlines back to the founding fathers. The person born to U.S. citizens is a U.S. citizen and can run for almost any U.S. office, but if they aren't a "natural born" citizen then they may be disqualified from running for president.

If he didn't qualify, Fox News would have been all over the airwaves with their proof. The proof would be in the records of the passport office and the American embassies in the world. Travel, especially for women in late pregnancy, was not as common in 1961 as it is now. Even now, it is highly unlikely that a woman in the last months of pregnancy will travel very far from home without an extremely good reason. Her family would know had she left the country in August of that year. Barack Obama is a natural born citizen. There is no question. So are my children.

Obama, on the other hand, was born in Hawaii, so there's no question that he's a natural born citizen. If he were born in Kenya, however, he may well have been disqualified. Like I said, it's a stupid rule, but there is it and there it stands. Your kids may not be "natural born" citizens. Just citizens. Which makes no difference at all UNLESS they want to run for president.

You can insist that they're natural born citizens all you like. But we'll never know for sure if they qualify as that, for the office of president/vice president and ONLY for the office of president/vice president until and unless they run for president and someone challenges them on that rule and it goes to court and gets ruled on.

So insist away. I can't argue what you want to believe, but trust me on this, if they were born in a foreign country and NOT at an embassy or military base, then if one of your kids ran for president, they'd be in court over this, unable to run for the office till the court ruled that they were "natural born" citizens.

I seriously doubt that any such rule would prevent a child who was an American citizen at birth to be eligible to be president. Too many children are born to American citizens living abroad. I agree that there is no argument about the fact that Obama is a natural born American citizen.

What are they thinking, do they really want to be the minority party forever? Lets hope.

There is nothing sweet about that though.

Could use a little DU love.

Let them wallow in their obsession; let the waters of conspiracy flow over their bodies. Their pathetic attempts to disguise their bigotry is now on youtube for all to see. Allow them to believe its presence there will vindicate them.

Meanwhile, the rest of America is distracted by real problems.

but I seem to recall a trivia bit that pointed out that the first president who was even born in a hospital at all was Jimmy Carter.

It's not that new of a phenomenon, you jackasses.

Hawaii had only been a state for two years at that point - and you're shocked that everything wasn't running up to par?