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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:33 PM
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Joan Walsh (on Morning Joe) asks a question for which there is no answer (1:15)
 
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Transcript of Mika:

'-) }-) BLEEP BLEEP BLEEP HELLO
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:47 PM
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4. Obvious.
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:42 PM
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2. Mika knows the answer! So does Joe! But Joan doesn't and neither do WE?
Hmmm, some questions have been raised with Morning Joe, indeed!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:46 PM
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3. Their collective response were so nonsensical I couldn't tell...
if they think Mika is comparable to Rush/Beck or if they think Joe is comparable (on the left) to Rush/Beck

the "discussion off screen" stuff was more than bizarre. It wasn't bullying it was YOU WENT OFF SCRIPT
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JohnnyK Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 12:37 AM
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35. It was obvious who she was thinking of and why she didn't speak...
They've ripped on him more than once on that show. Mika was thinking of Olbermann, but with both being under the peacock umbrella, she didn't want to say it on the air. Keith would've taken umbrage at the fact someone from his own network compared him to Rush Limbaugh. As well he should. His rhetoric in no way comes close to Rush's. Rush is as incendiary and mean spirited as they come. And has a problem with the facts on many occasions.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:01 AM
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37. I agree - she wanted to say Olberman and Maddow
but she didn't have the guts to do it - because she KNOWS they are not radical - they tell the fucking truth because nobody else in the media will!!! So fuck of Mika and go back to hanging out with your rich snobby republican asshole friends and being Joe Scarborough's sidekick. Great insights from the all knowing sidekick of Joe Dead-Intern-In-My-Office Scarborough. :eyes:
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smoogatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:47 PM
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54. You guys are right, of course.
But her failure to name names left that implied false equivalence unchallenged. There's no comparison between Olbermann and Limbeck. Olbermann has not, as far as I know, advocated secession or the violent overthrow of the duly elected government.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 07:36 PM
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59. Exactly
i was pretty pissed bout it last night so was bit emotional in my response but yes - keith and rachel do not advocate radical violent behavior nor do they try to arrouse it others the way foxnews does - keith, rachel, and ed all advocate a better, more accountable government that would actually work for the people of this country. That's why Mika couldn't answer the question because she knows yours or mine here or something similar would have been Walsh's reply. :toast:
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:49 PM
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5. they have been warned before not to go after their co-workers, especially on 'AIR'
but you can see they are bout ready to pop, especially mika - lol
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:53 PM
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6. Walsh did her job well.
She got Mika B**ch to act up. She almost got Dead Intern Joe to say Olbermann's name.
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ShamelessHussy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 07:59 PM
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8. yes, she was absolutely, brilliant!
i just loved the shot of the producer in that clip, roflmfao!

:hi:
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Grand Taurean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:00 PM
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9. Mika is trashy as Sarah Palin.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:04 PM
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11. One has to go back to the seventies to find that kind of violent rhetoric on the left
It isn't divisive to call a tea party rally a Klan March when so many of their placards exhibit hatred for the president of the United States based on his African heritage and so many of the same people carrying the racist signs can't explain the policies they claim to be actually protesting. It isn't divisive to call Sarah Palin an idiot when she clearly doesn't know what she's talking about; perhaps it would help if she wrote the text of the Constitution on her hand in order to avoid stupid references to how the Founding Fathers didn't separate church and state. It isn't divisive to call Dick Chaney a war criminal when he admits to having been "a big believer in waterboarding" and there is ample evidence that he willfully manipulated intelligence in order to make Iraq out to be a far greater threat than it was and it certainly isn't violent to insist that he he be made to answer for such charges in a criminal trial and, if found guilty, be made to spend the rest of his natural life behind bars.

One has to go back decades to recall when members of the Weather Underground threatened the lives of political figures and their families or spoke of armed insurrection against the federal government.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:11 PM
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12. Well, Olbermann is "provocative" and so are Limbaugh and Beck . . .
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 08:12 PM by MrModerate
He isn't a serial fabulist or crazy as a loon, however, and I think one ought to be able to make the distinction. Apparently I'm wrong with regard to Mika and Joe.
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Boudica the Lyoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:31 PM
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13. Mika is a real arsehole.
So this ugly piece of work thinks there are commentators on MSNBC that are equal to Rush? WTF!
Why the hell is she chewing her cud on air anyway?
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:32 PM
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14. Mika Brzezinski...the Kate Gosselin of TV journalists
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Dave From Canada Donating Member (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:35 PM
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15. Olbermann, Ed Shultz, that Mike Malloy guy is especially insane. Have you guys heard some of the
stuff he's said? It's bizarre.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:42 PM
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19. Bullshit. None of them have encouraged violence or willful ignorance of an Oklahoma bombing-mindset.
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 08:44 PM by Hissyspit
I don't agree with stuff they say or even some of their tactics, but it is hardly extremist rhetoric.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:20 PM
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25. Comparing K.O. and Ed to Mike Malloy is kind of Wing Nut...don'tcha think?
wink, wink?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 07:15 AM
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40. Can't let you get by with that without examples.
Give them.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:55 PM
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47. I think that the relationship is that the folks on the Right make continuously spew out some very
incendiary rhetoric at worst and consisten lies at best. Olbermann, Ed Shultz and Mike Mally spend a good time reacting to them and comparing the facts to what the Right has spewed. Similar in some ways and extremely different at the same time.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 07:19 PM
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56. Not even close. Get real.
Well maybe Malloy. Olbermann and Schultz are not telling lies to get people riled up and are not advocating violence. They just tell the truth and they think it's hell.

Limbaugh, Beck, Palin, Savage, Bachmann and on and on cannot speak without lying or blowing either the racist or violence dog whistles.

Criticizing people and correcting BS is not the same as lying about them and then ginning people up to hate the person you just lied about.
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:37 PM
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16. Once again.." MORNING JOEK " . n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:41 PM
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18. K & R
Go Joan!
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:45 PM
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20. and Starbucks sponsors this?

maybe that is the problem right there - they have someone who wants to literally put their name on this 'product'

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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 08:47 PM
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22. Don't know why I clicked on this, but it is interesting. I don't watch the
Edited on Tue Apr-20-10 08:49 PM by peacetalksforall
show - but I sometimes read the comments and I've only ever seen Mika looking fawningly into the eyes of Joe and nodding her head affirmatively.

I don't know Joan Walsh, but is Mika referring to Olberman and two others?

This was a great behind the scenes look at MSNBC. What a treasure. It proves to me that allowing Olberman, Maddow, and Schultz (if that is what the lady meant) is a fragile relationship at MSNBC.

I've thought they were right wing for 20? years? When did they start up - by covering the O J Simpson trial. I used to watch them religiously and I learned a lot about who was who and the organizations they spoke for. I started piecing it together very well during the Clinton character assassination.

Even though I don't watch (except for occasional videos of O, M, and S) - they have always been and probably always will be an extremely right wing corporation.

Post an announcement if Mika and Joe ever grow up.

Tell me if was wrong in my interpretation of what was going on there.
The train was off the tracks, that's for sure.
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Vermontgrown Donating Member (180 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:05 PM
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24. Morning Joe should be on the faux network.
These people are running away with right wing blather . The thing is this Mika chick and Scaborough are extreme right wing idealogs. Anyone on the left on this bogusly horrible program are sensored. Hell these creeps will shut off your mic. They're no different then Hannity or O'reilly, or Beck or any of the right wing nut jobs that can't take anything derogatory about their prescious right.
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PinkFloyd Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:42 PM
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53. Joe and Mika *might* move...Hopefully...
Of course he could go to Fox or CNN. However, there's a new conservative network coming this summer called "RightNetwork". Its going to be a network where they complain about liberals all day, talk about Republicans running for office and make jokes about Obama. I watched some of their Youtube videos and it looked almost as entertaining as watching ice melt. However, I think Joe and Mika would fit right in and they're bound to need news people.

Personally, I would love to see a morning show with Ed, Rachel, Keith, Matthews or Lawrence O'Donnell. Joe never made sense for them. The vast majority of MSNBC's audience are liberals so it never made any sense to have conservatives running their morning show.
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:35 PM
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26. Shameless. Happy karma, Mika and Joe. Who on the left? I didn't think so.
typical.
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zydeco Donating Member (152 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 09:58 PM
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27. Anyone one watching moaning joe
may as well watch the fox. But at that same time is Robin Meade on CNBC and it is so nice hearing news without bias.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:31 PM
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51. Oh, yeah. Robin Meade on CNN is so much better.
I haven't watched morning joke since Mika started playing stupid. Girl needs to grow a pair.
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janet118 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:18 PM
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28. Mika was rude and insulting to Joan . . .
I guess little Mika decided to step out of her bobble head role long enough to show-off for her rude and insulting master, Joe "lady killer" Scarborough. The "Morning Joe" show is unwatchable. Mika plays the cute, stupid girl the junior high jocks like to hang out with during their competitive "coolness" rituals. Ick.

Joan should stay the f*&k off that show. Grown-ups need not apply.
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sybylla Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:33 PM
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52. I bet Joan will from now on.
WTF was Mika thinking? Even Willie seemed a bit speechless over it.
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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:35 PM
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29. The look on the directors face at the end was priceless!
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:47 PM
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30. What the hell was that?
That was one weird little moment. I love the look on Joan's face when Mika just starts like rambling. That was just ridiculous and she is supposed to be a respected political commentator on a fucking major news network. Such a trip.
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realitythink Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 10:55 PM
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31. It's quite obvious what is happening here
Mika is just like a battered spouse, just look at the video a couple of times. She is so afraid that Joe may blow a gasket and start going off on all kinds of people, but most importantly people who work for the same company. In Mika's mind if he does that he puts not only her and the whole Morning Joe (Suck Ups) crew in jeopardy but he also puts himself in jeopardy. An abuse victim, caught in the trap always, protects the abuser. The woman has Stockholm syndrome and it's pathetic to see played out on TEEVEE everyday.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:48 PM
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45. Exactly. I see their relationship like that.
She gets to retaliate and feel human when she's attacking the very same people Joe is. She's a twat.
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Hansel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 07:22 PM
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57. No, Mika is just stupid. Period. nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-20-10 11:49 PM
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Sugarcoated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 12:13 AM
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33. Oh, for fucks sake
I'm so glad I gave up on the bully and his twit years ago . . . she's disgusting.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 12:33 AM
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34. Mika said she'd tell Joan after the show. If Joan has any guts, she'll publish what Mika said.
That was disgusting. What children. Mika's Dad must be humiliated by her. It's worse the second time you watch it.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 01:03 AM
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36. No longer working, surprise surprise.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:42 AM
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39. Worked for me--and I am viewing it on April 21. nt
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:35 AM
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38. drunk
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 08:07 AM
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41. I get it
Mika is basically saying that Thom Hartmann is the liberal equivalent of Rush Limbaugh.

No, it has to be Keith and Ed and Rachel and Dylan are the equivalent of Rush and Beck, but she can't say it "on the air" because they're all on her employer's network.

This is a "false equivalency" isn't it? Like the right has Adolph Hitler and the left has Eric Cartmann. Same thing, just on different sides.

Sheesh!

Joan better write about this. Mika insulted her!

-90% jimmy

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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 01:36 PM
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42. I don't know if Joan has a contract to appear on that show. She's been doing so with more
frequency lately...but then I don't know how these things work...
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dem mba Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 01:52 PM
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43. your answer is at the link below
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:47 PM
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44. Mika Mouse....well then...when it's anyone but Joe she's far from it.
She's Mika Bitch...well then. What a rude person.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 04:52 PM
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46. The dirty secret is
Morning Jerk has crap ratings.
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zenprole Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:36 PM
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48. No Sympathy/All Counts
The hosts are mid-grade fascists, plying their trade. The attempt to cut off debate isn't surprising, but Walsh's immediate silence was. Sitting there slack-jawed, then appealing to someone for help, makes me embarrassed for her. She should have fired back without hesitation and prosecuted her point. And she's the editor at Slate? Clues, anyone??? Try viewing the Jon Stewart Crossfire tape.

What's also surprising are the moderator responses on this thread. The footage is an act of censorship in real time. Americans who still understand the Bill of Rights are supposed to express revulsion and hostility. Instead, it's turned into a pseudo-lesson in political correctness. Q: if you can't handle something mild like this, how will you deal when confronted by serious power, or danger for that matter? It's an act of denial that would embarrass an ostrich.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:39 PM
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49. I was wondering why she did't just say "Give me a name"
ONE name
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 05:41 PM
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50. Joan should have been more specific with her question...
since the right wing likes to ignore the obvious, they were thinking that Keith and Rachel are as far left as Rush is far right....however, the question was not who is as far left as Rush is far right, but who on the left INCITES violence? When was the last time a left winger threatened violence because of rhetoric of someone on the left Mika? :crickets:
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onpatrol98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 06:57 PM
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55. Too funny....
Can you please just read an op ed?

:hide:
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-21-10 07:24 PM
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58. LMAO OMG I CANT BELIEVE U DONT KNOW THE ANSWER
OMG WE ARENT GOING TO TELL YOU EITHER! OMG UR SO DUMB!! I CANT BELIEVE U DONT KNOW!!!

lol

its like being in the 7th grade all over again with these guys.


but hey, very uncrafty way of dodging a question.
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Redemption Seeker Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-22-10 12:27 AM
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60. She wasn't "stumped," she was Incredulous!
As was I, that Meekow Brzezinski and Joke Scarborough could even float the idea that somebody---anybody!---on the left has the same level of BILE as do Drug Rush and Beckerhead!
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-23-10 12:35 PM
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61. rwers i know think the left is as culpable. i totally don't see that.
now the repub leaders are also repeating that meme . . . 'both sides do/did it'. NOT!

does anyone remember placards with a pic of bush as hitler? no, you didn't because any bush protesters were kept miles away in free speech zones and were not given ANY air time. i wish someone would tell the repukes that.

ellen fl
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