TYT: For The Bible Tells Me So - Review & Discussion (Anti-Gay Christians & More)

Run time: 20:54 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMUpZ_qravg   Posted on YouTube: May 22, 2010 By YouTube Member: TYTInterviews Views on YouTube: 2423   Posted on DU: May 23, 2010 By DU Member: ihavenobias Views on DU: 1072

 
Summary: Jonathan Kim of ReThink Reviews joins Cenk and guest co-host Ben Mankiewicz to review and discuss the documentary For The Bible Tells Me So. Is The Bible anti-gay? Was Jesus? Are anti-gay Christians hypocrites? You can http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/for_the_bible_tells_me_so/|read more reviews here>.

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Is that it seems like we're just trying to come up with excuses on the Bible's behalf. Yes, it does also say you shouldn't wear linen and wool at the same time and that kids should be killed for cursing their parents...and that's exactly what it means. I've read the Bible quite a few times over; there is nothing that says these commands are only legitimate in the context of Biblical times. The Bible is God's word (allegedly) and as such it is timeless.

What we should be focusing on is what a hateful, out-dated, ridiculous book the Bible is when treated as anything other than ancient mythology; that the true Christian faith IS anti-gay and anti-women and anti-reason and many other things. The Christian faith people wish existed (one that embraces gays and fits nicely with science) has been fabricated just like the original. Neither are based in fact.

You nailed it! The real problem is folks wanting to hold onto parts of a Bronze Age Belief System in the 21st Century!

If the Bible was any other group's code of conduct then folks would call it for what it is...However, call it religion & that exempts it from criticism and makes everything OK!

most Christians can't answer any of these questions because they don't really want to have to think about it or spend any time studying it. They go on Sunday and that pretty much takes care of the obligation. They can call themselves saved the rest of the time and go about judging others.

But, I went to a lecture on the Bible and homosexuality. The speaker was a professor at a seminary somewhere who had studied this issue at length. He read a lot of historical texts, all sorts of old things and concluded that, yes, Jesus did talk about homosexuality. The term that the Bible uses is "eunuch," and it includes includes castrated men, but if you read the fairly long definition that Jesus himself provides for eunuch, it also includes men who are born eunuchs. Now that could mean a number of things, but could easily include homosexuals. Obviously, Jesus would not have wanted to be viewed as a homosexual himself although he lived surrounded by a close-knit group of men.. You can read the story for yourself.


And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
put Mal 2:16, Matt 5:32, Mark 10:11, Luke 16:18, 1st Cor 7:11


His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry.
marry Proverbs 21:19


But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given.
given 1st Cor 7:7


For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.
eunuchs 1st Cor 7:1

http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/B40C019.htm#V9

Some DUers object to the idea that Jesus was talking about homosexuals or including them in his discussion here. But the expert who spoke on this stated that the term eunuch did include homosexuals. I am relying on his study of this issue. Personally, I think that Jesus was joking with his disciples here a bit. Right before these lines, the disciples were asking Jesus how they could avoid the punishment for adultery. So, I think he was kind of saying, well you could avoid marriage. And here is how. I do not understand people who read the Bible without figuring out that Jesus, for one, occasionally might have had a sense of humor.

Nothing is ever said about lesbianism. So I guess that's an OK activity for Christian women. Just guessing there.

The speaker also stated that the first non-Jew to convert to Christianity arguably was a eunuch, that is a castrated Ethiopian slave.

Here is the story of the eunuch convert:

http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/B44C008.htm#V27

i was laying in bed with my wife (no virgin, she), eating shrimp, wearing wool and linen, and cussing at my father over the phone. I am a goner.

although I already knew that both homosexuality and shellfish are listed under the same list of abominations on the same friggin' page. Christians (who are against homosexual rights) say they can't be OK with homosexuals, they don't have a choice because it's in the Bible. Yet you never see them picket Red Lobster, which shows that they ARE picking and choosing, which means they need to OWN UP to their prejudices.

K&R