OMFG!!! View Co-host doesn't know if the earth is flat or a sphere

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If there is a God, this country needs her help.

Note to Whoopi Goldberg and the others on the View who at least know the world is not flat. Ladies! The world is a sphere, it's not round.

The earth is an elliptoid, three dimensional.

It's not a sphere, at least not in the sense
of a three-d circle.

Sue

Well, Spherical seemed to work for all my science teachers in High School and Collage

Spherical models


There are several reasonable ways to approximate Earth's shape as a sphere. Each preserves a different feature of the true Earth in order to compute the radius of the spherical model. All examples in this section assume the WGS 84 datum, with an equatorial radius "a" of 6,378.137 km and a polar radius "b" of 6,356.752 km. A sphere being a gross approximation of the spheroid, which itself is an approximation of the geoid, units are given here in kilometers rather than the millimeter resolution appropriate for geodesy.

* Preserve the equatorial circumference. This is simplest, being a sphere with circumference identical to the equatorial circumference of the real Earth. Since the circumference is the same, so is the radius, at 6,378.137 km.
* Preserve the lengths of meridians. This requires an elliptic integral to find, given the polar and equatorial radii: \frac{2a}{\pi}\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}\sqrt{\cos^2\phi + \frac{b^2}{a^2}\sin^2 \phi}\,d\phi. A sphere preserving the lengths of meridians has a rectifying radius of 6,367.449 km. This can be approximated using the elliptical quadratic mean: \sqrt{\frac{a^2+b^2}{2}}\,\!, about 6,367.454 km.
* Preserve the average circumference. As there are different ways to define an ellipsoid's average circumference (radius vs. arcradius/radius of curvature; elliptically fixed vs. ellipsoidally "fluid"; different integration intervals for quadrant-based geodetic circumferences), there is no definitive, "absolute average circumference". The ellipsoidal quadratic mean is one simple model: \sqrt{\frac{3a^2+b^2}{4}}\,\!, giving a spherical radius of 6,372.798 km.
* Preserve the surface area of the real Earth. This gives the authalic radius: \sqrt{\frac{a^2+\frac{ab^2}{\sqrt{a^2-b^2}}\ln{(\frac{a+\sqrt{a^2-b^2}}b)}}{2}}\,\!, or 6,371.007 km.
* Preserve the volume of the real Earth. This volumetric radius is computed as: \sqrt<3>{a^2b}, or 6,371.001 km.

Note that the authalic and volumetric spheres have radii that differ by less than 7 meters, yet both preserve important properties. Hence both are common and occasionally an average of the two is used.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_Earth

yardstick in width, length and height, how much would a person weigh at the one inch and 36 inch ends so to speak, and how much would a person weigh at the 18 inch mark?? Curious how that would play out.

There is a video on YouTube of the French version of "Who wants to be a Millionaire" where the befuddled contestant had to poll the audience on whether the Earth went around the Sun or vice versa. 60% of the studio audience said it was the Sun that rotated around the Earth... something Galileo proved was not true nearly 500 years ago.

The Mayans correctly deduced that the Earth is round when they noticed that the shadow of the Earth as it passed across the moon in a Lunar Eclipse was curved.

I read of some Evangelicals walked out in protest when Bill Nye ("The Science Guy") pointed out that the Moon only "reflected" light from the Sun, not emit light itself like the Bible suggests. If the Moon emitted its own light, there'd never be such thing as a Lunar Eclipse. Presumably, we've known the Moon doesn't emit its own light since *before* the time those words were written in the Bible. Yet, still, "religion" demands... not only a suspension of disbelief just to exist, but a denial of the evidence of your own eyes.

Just certain interpretations of it. The Bible itself is a highly intelligent document, when properly related to the times/conditions under which it was written. And, we must remember that over the ages, much could have been left out or changed, and so much varies in translation.

In the New Testament, Jesus presents a highly sophisticated philosophy of kindness, responsibility for our fellow human beings, and social acceptance, going far beyond an "eye for an eye."

Collage (From the , to stick) is regarded as a work of visual arts made from an assemblage of different forms, thus creating a new whole. This technique made its first appearance in the early 20th ...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collage

Look at this article: The Ellipsoid! Or is it the Spheroid? How About Geoid? Part I

However, it eventually became obvious that while the Earth was closer to an ellipsoid than a sphere, it is not exactly an ellipsoid either

http://www.mentorsoftwareinc.com/cc/gistips/TIPS0998.HTM

http://theflatearthsociety.org/forum// Yikes.

Ha ha... that is one crazy site right there, I tell ya.

You should check out their FAQ...

Q: So, why do you guys think the earth is flat?

A. Because it looks that way up close.


...or something to that effect. That is one funny site. They got maps and 3d graphics and everything.

Oh, yeah, they say that the whole traveling into space thing is a hoax. and NASA is the biggest conspirator in the whole thing.

a wonderful new documentary about the Apollo missions, the astronauts address this fallacy at the end of the flick. Basically, they said 'why would we participate in a such a fraud?'

But, the flat-earthers won't ever bother to go see it. But you should. Everybody should.

Universe. I really believe this. I don't believe, of course, that the Earth is the center of our solar system or the center of our galaxy, but I do believe that it is the center of the Universe.

From their FAQ:

Q: If the earth is flat, then what is under it?

A: Some people believe there are rocks and others believe that the earth sits on the backs of four elephants and a turtle.


OMG! Their poor children.

Don't they realize that it's turtles all the way down?

:D

"Is our children learning?"

How do we know God didn't come to her in a dream and tell her that the Earth may be flat, it may be round etc.

Afterall...those videos released by NASA could have been created by Satan himself/herself/itself to fool the faithful (Like those dinosaur bones, the Downing Street memos and Eskimos).

on a serious note:
I'm glad she said it. I hope she says more... The public needs to see these morons out there saying these stupid things to remind the public of just how f**king stupid they are.

I would have simply responded, "Well, that explains a lot."

She can't think herself out of the second grade let alone imagine the past, future, or what it's like to stand in somebody else's shoes. That's why stupid people are often bigoted and the deterioration of our educational system scares the hell out of me.

I loved it when she said she would have to take her child to the library, should he inquire about this deep subject. What the hell would she have done when she got there? How would you know which books to believe?

It is not that I look condescendingly upon people who are uneducated; but it pisses me off when uneducated people presume to educate the rest of us.

why would she get hired over Kathy Griffen? This show is completely useless.

...like everytime someone is called on the carpet regarding Science Facts.

responses so I can tell what the challenged one said..I just ate and even if I hadn't I don't do masochism.

Barry Manilow is one of my new heroes!

She just really sold out to get the paycheck here.

Note: The geoid of the Earth look like a “patatoid”. The
variations of the geoid are given by colours and are in the
range of about a hundred meters.
Avocado? “patatoid”
Who built that? When NASA released the GEOID correspond-
ing to one of the GEM (Gravity Earth Models) of GSFC the
sketch had exaggerated bumps and troughs. During the press
conference it was that this Earth said appears as a non-fresh
avocado or like a kind of potato, a “patatoid”.This new
nickname was used and popularized. Obviously, there was a
reply in a newspaper an unhappy citizen “I am paying enough
taxes to have a decent Earth. What NASA will plan to rectify it?”

http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:zZdxNNMB0eEJ:lareg.ensg.ign.fr/AGRET/doc/ML%2BFB_sci_siecle.pdf+geodesy+earth+potato&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4

http://lareg.ensg.ign.fr/AGRET/doc/ML+FB_sci_siecle.pdf


Since in ancient times Geodesy is dealing with the determination of the Earth' figure, but also with practical issues like the yearly repeated surveying of the fields after the nile flood. Till this day the question about the figure of the Earth has prevailed: does the figure resemble a disc, a globe, or rather a 'potato'? Even if the right answer 'potato' seems a little bit exaggerated one should notice that if the whole Earth would be covered by water, one could measure deviations of about 20 km at the poles compared to an ideal globe and in addition irregular distributed dints of up to 100 m deep or high with respect to a so-called rotation ellipsoid, which corresponds to a 30-storied building (the in such a manner defined 'potato' is called Geoid: it is shown in the picture with inflated deviations with respect to the globe).
http://209.85.129.104/search?q=cache:b19wMdMn0_wJ:www.ipg.tu-darmstadt.de/gug/en/geodesy.html+geodesy+earth+potato&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1

"I can't believe I didn't audition for that show."

... confusing.

that about covers it...

Even out of, say, the fifth grade?

She says, "I don't know. I never thought about it." Uhhhh, you didn't think about it IN SCHOOL when it was being TAUGHT TO YOU?? When you were SHOWN PICTURES of Earth from SPACE???

And she'll have to take her kid to the library if he ever thinks deep enough to ask the question?? How is going to the library to find the answer any different from getting the answer in SCHOOL or from SCIENTISTS or, I don't know, SOCIETY IN GENERAL?

When I heard Sherri Shephard got this job - which I knew she would because she has guest-hosted a bunch of times - well, it was predictable and disappointing. Kathy Griffin would have been so much better. I rarely or never watch the show, but geez, if she's gonna spout this kind of stuff on there....blech. Hell, even little right-wing dittohead Elizabeth knew the Earth was round and seemed to say she believed in evolution on this clip.

we put her in a boat and let her sail over the edge.

and needs to learn by doing. :thumbsup:

:rofl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMHKsPzo5Qo
Senior moment.

Hafta admit -- I've been there, too.

They gave her several chances and she never caught on. Go back and watch the original. She clearly has NO idea if it's round or flat.

I don't care how "flustered" someone is, nothing short of a full psychotic break would leave an otherwise intelligent person unable to answer a simple question like "is the Earth round or flat?"

Since she obviously didn't have a psychotic break and is still with us (unfortunately), she's just an utter moron.

This explanation was more just cover for the show to try to save some credibility after giving a seat on a nationally televised show and a large salary to a complete dumbass.

is that she didn't know what she was supposed to say (by whoever's paying her to deny evolution) so she had to wait until she got the memo telling her what to say.

Sorry - Sherri does NOT look 65, even allowing for the youthful effect of fat. And, she is obviously young enough to have children to care for.

I have no doubt that we could visit any nursing home in the USA, and as long as the resident was reasonably coherent, that man or woman could tell you that the earth is not flat.

Next question for Sherri: Who was Christopher Columbus, what did he do, and why?

Thanks.

family excuse when they can't think of anything else.

Hey, she could be Glen Beck's co-host

:beer:

are people under us right now?

Maybe she was flustered by trying to defend her religious beliefs in the face of science--maybe it was a momentary lapse in her mind.

But that Barbara pushed it beyond the end of the conversation just to get in that last jab--that was stupid.

:crazy:

"He sits enthroned above the sphere of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in."

Welcome to DU!

just simply amazing how low we've sunk as a society when they have a SERIOUS discussion about a ridiculuous notion when just a few short years ago she would have been laughed off the stage...

I am absolutely astounded...

Teach the controversy!

...:sarcasm:

When will we get to the point that most of our kids get at least a passable education?

Horrible.

The first mistake is to say "believe in evolution" or "believe evolution" like it's in any way a matter of faith. It's science, the cool thing here is it's about facts y'know.

This ignorance makes me outright sick. And there are three R presidential candidates who don't "believe" in evolution either?

As for the world flat or not issue : is it possible to have even less intellectual curiosity than GWB??


PS : And yes, the moon emits light by itself also...

my faith in humanities ability to save its self from its self has just further diminished.

Bet she makes enough money on that stupid show to buy five SUVs to tote around her unfortunate children.