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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 09:32 AM
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Kucinich in House: I've Said For 5 Years This War Is About Oil
 
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 09:35 AM
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1. K & R
:kick:
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:21 PM
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17. Strength though Peace! Support Vuchinich!
The only candidate who works to strengthen the roots of Democracy in our country and around the world.

He is what we need in a Democrat!

http://www.denniskucinich.us/index.php?topic=blog

:dem:

http://www.dennis4president.com/home/
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Maven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:16 AM
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2. K/R
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againes654 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:32 AM
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3. Boy they were quick to call time
K&R
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AnotherDreamWeaver Donating Member (917 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 11:03 AM
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4. Push 'em again, Harder, Harder.
You Rock Dennis...
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 12:08 PM
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5. K&R thanks and here is the statement from his office...
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:33 PM
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6. And sheeple cant see that this guy is trying to stand up against...
the corrupted by money system. Please someone show me another candidate willing to stand up for the American people like this guy is and has been doing. If there is a god, please have mercy on us and open peoples eyes before its too late! No one can because there is no candidate like him. People don't understand that the media is controlled and has an agenda? Do they not know that either? Why do you think the media ignores people like Dennis Kucinich, he is trying to defend the people of this country not the corporations.

Wake up before its too late, please don't hand my rights over to another candidate afraid to speak for me.

I know hardly any Clinton,Obama and Edwards supporters even read Kucinich posts no matter what the subject. He could be on you tube telling us that the government is going to blow up a state as a false flag and people wouldn't even look at a thread if his name were on it. Idiots! To those few that do, you are not an idiot. I know that there a couple that always do come in to usually put him down or kill his message but at least they take part.

Great headline too, how many different members will comment? I say 9.
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hurricaneric Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:27 PM
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18. same old sh!t
blah blah, "Kucinich rocks! Evey other Dem sucks."
It's tiresome to hear, maybe that's why people don't read the posts.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:42 AM
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21. Or perhaps it's because the average American doesn't...
...trust an honest man. They don't know how to handle him. They do know they can't cheat him. And probably most are certain he does have a hidden agenda and since he keeps it so well "hidden" it must be a real duzy. (and not the fun kind)
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axollot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 05:33 AM
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23. Well I'm not exactly a Hilarity or Obama cheerleader.....
But I do like Edwards for several reasons and here I am! Posting on the Kucinich thread. I love Kucinich's train of thought - him and *gasp* Ron Paul are often arguing for the same thing, when it comes to the war on terra*, war on drugs, patriot act, being in Iraq etc. (And NO I am not a rethug. Been with DU since 2002, registered in 2003. Hubby reads this site everyday and never posts either.)

I do not know why people have issues with Kucinich - to much change? I think if we can't have him as Prez, VP would be great too! Look how much havoc Cheney did in his VP days - imagine the good Kucinich could do in HIS (if we could have it) days as VP.

The only thing I know for sure when it comes to our glorious :sarcasm: candidates is this - I would love to see a woman in the White House, but NOT Hilarity - she is just another corporate work horse. I would love to see a black man - Obama would make a great VP too - then after 8 years a wonderful, well balanced and in-the-know in DC politico who would make a strong president - as long as the system doesn't eat him up first. (thats what I think it did to Hillary).

Good god, could you imagine Guliani? I shudder at the thought - the only one on the other team I would accept *if I had to* would be Paul - but then he has some wacky issues too, on abortion just for starters - he is a constitutionalist, so he would be great in a good cabinet position to remind ANY president about that "stupid piece of paper".
/rant off
1/2 through 1st cuppa coffee today =)
Cheers
Sandy











*see bush-speak
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 06:58 AM
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26. Visualisation folks let's all envisage he gets the candiadacy and the WH..........
Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 07:02 AM by cooolandrew
... All other candidates are false choices. It would be great to have black president or a woman president but they simply are not offering what the world and America needs right now. One man is the right candidate, who's name is Kucinich. Focus and visual9ise.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 01:36 PM
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7. of course
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:10 PM
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8. It that video the graph showing the rise in profits reminded me.
Is it strange that when Bush took office, oil was around $19 a barrel and like $1.17 and all of a sudden, the oil of the world started to dry up? Did he somehow dry all the oil from the earth because it started its jump in price then and they started telling us the earths oil supply was in danger. Just another one of those coincidences. :sarcasm:
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 02:18 PM
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9. K & R - many more people need to hear what Kucinich has been saying n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 07:29 AM
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28. everytime when I hear Dennis I smile, cause he tells the truth
and is on our side, isn't way past the time that we get a President who will uphold the Constitution instead of having these thugs in office.
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:14 AM
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30. I agree, absolutely! And if more people heard him so obviously telling the truth
The thugs and enablers, including those in the Democratic party, would be seen for what they are when they spouted their programmed propaganda.
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PianoBlack Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:09 PM
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10. Wow!
I can't believe they rushed him out like that! There were not that many people waiting to speak! Why in the hell would they rush him?


Hm..... The plot thickens.
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focusfan Donating Member (884 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 05:18 PM
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11. Dennis Kunich knows what he is talking about
I wish like Hell we can get rid of the crooks
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 07:50 PM
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12. Listen to this. It says it ALL
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 08:20 PM
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13. k+r
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 09:04 PM
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14. Any other candidates daring to even mention the Hunt Oil deal?!
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cosmicdot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 09:52 PM
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15. KnR
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 10:11 PM
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16. A voice of reason and intelligence in a room full of idiots
What Kucinich talks about ought to be front page news.



The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt.
- Bertrand Russell < 1872-1970 >

(Kucinich is definitely an exception to this rule, but it sure explains the majority of his colleagues.)




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Maat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-20-07 11:58 PM
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19. That's why we are campaigning for him out here!
Our business partner is his California volunteer coordinator! Go, Dennis, yahoo!
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 12:18 AM
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20. PR friendly assesment but yea.. thats one reason... n/t
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 05:09 AM
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22. We've all known it for years
why is Nancy P. hushing him up?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 05:40 AM
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24. Who was that asshole saying his time had expired?
What a dick.

There's always someone trying to silence the truth.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 06:46 AM
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25. One problem I have with Kucinich is what I call the Jimmy Carter effect.
Carter is one of the most decent, honest men ever to be president. He went into Washington really thinking he could do something about the orrupt system there. But even though he had a Democratic congress, they considered him an outsider, not "one of them." so they deliberately hogtied him. He was a failed president because his Democratic congress (and, of course, the media) made sure he would be, and that paved the way for 8 years of Reagan. No matter how great Kucinich is, he can't do what he wants to do if he is hogtied by the congress, and even a Dem congress can prevent him from achieving any of our goals.

If we could get enough real progressives elected to both houses of congress, then Kucinich could be an extraordinary president, in the FDR mold. But I just can't see the media or the powers that be permitting that, can you?
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Yurovsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 08:48 AM
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29. WE need to become the "powers that be"...
and the first step is cleansing Congress and the party of the DINOs out there carrying water for Halliburton, Cheney, & Bush, Inc.

The American public is ready for DK and others like him (and if the media would stop promoting Hillary, Inc. he might have a chance). Progressives have to make it happen. Settling for "just better than W" ain't gonna do it people. And sadly, that's what most of the Democrat field is this year.

This country deserves better.

This country deserves Dennis Kucinich as President. And Kucinich deserves a Congress and a Party that is not a subsidiary of the Military-Industrial Capitalist Thugocracy.
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Sufficient Voice Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:54 AM
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32. Although I worry about the same problem,
I am still voting for Dennis. If he were to win the primary, it would take a mass popular movement to get Kucinich to win the general. He would be attacked from all sides. Fortunately, the best thing that could inspire a popular movement would be someone like Kucinich getting enough air time to really start telling the American people the truth. There would be a ton of power in that popular movement. Probably enough to put pressure on congress to support Kucinich. That was what really gave FDR his support. The pressure from the people who were living in those troubled times. Not super progressive Dems. Look it up.

I feel most of American's (even Republican) voters know something is terribly wrong in our country today and that they are not getting the truth. I feel that people are not naturally apathetic, but they are when the lack direction or feel over-whelmed or confused. If Kucinich won the primary, he would be attacked, but he would also get enough air time to let the American people know what is really going on. I think the light of truth he could shine on things at that moment, might just start the wild-fire we need.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 01:36 PM
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35. Oh, I agree--but for this to work, we need to be like the Orange Revolution
in the Ukraine, or like Obrador's supporters in Mexico--out in the streets in overwhelming numbers, banging pots and pans, camping out in public squares.

Of course, I also believe the powers that be are true fascists, and that if we actually do that they will bring in the troops--probably Blackwater and other mercenaries as well as cops and soldiers--to crack out heads and drag us off to those Halliburton-built detention camps. And I believe the guys they use to strong-arm us will be more than willing to do so. People like to think the troops would not turn on us as citizens exercising our right to free assembly, to protest, etc., but I have seen nothing to suggest that cops, mercenaries, or military forces are particularly sensitive to our constitutional rights. There's a thread on the "Greatest" page right now showing members of Code Pink being arested for daring to read the Constitution out loud in a public space. They are lucky they just got arrested, not Tasered or otherwise physically harmed. But of course there should not have been any question of arresting them,either.
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Sufficient Voice Donating Member (149 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 05:25 PM
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36. Yes
They will attack us, they may even kill us. But we must not be afraid. If they do this they will lose. When four lost their life in Kent State, it was a big wake up call to the nation. If we are unafraid, we will always win.

The non-violence movement as a great concept called the "Paradox of Repression".

from the Metta Center's website --

"When repression becomes so oppressive that it forges its own demise, we arrive at the paradox: use of violent repression can contribute to the instability of the regime that sponsors it."
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-22-07 11:50 AM
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37. Your thoughts highlight this for me:
It is the voters who put people into office, discounting Diebold, of course.

If voters want truth, they have to put people in office who will speak, walk, and work for truth.

If voters want opposition, they have to vote those people into office.

Voters enable the corruption by voting for "lesser evils."

Every damned "lesser evil" vote guarantees that the corruption will continue.

If voters want the best, the most honest, principled, disciplined, committed president, they'll vote for Kucinich this time around.

If voters want Congress to support the efforts of any member of the House or Senate, or of the president, they'll hold Congress accountable for doing so, with their votes and their dollars.

If voters were principled, they could overcome the corporate and media corruption by refusing to allow corporate donors and corporate media to call the shots.

This isn't a party issue, or party politics, for me. This is about democratic principles, about supporting and defending the U.S. Constitution, and about allowing the ideal of a democratic republic, where everyone has a voice and the government works for the people, to die. Or, to infuse it with fresh blood and fresh purpose.

I will never again cast a vote for a candidate I judge to work for him/herself, and for his/her donors, before the Constitution and the people it is supposed to protect.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 07:26 AM
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27. Dennis you got to love him
Edited on Fri Sep-21-07 07:26 AM by alyce douglas
the only one with balls to tell the truth.
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 09:27 AM
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31. If allowed to speak, he's fantastic.
I listened to him on AirAmerica last week. He was on the Ed S. Show for 3 hours. What an intelligent, compassionate, insightful man. His wife has been in working for various causes for years on her own. There were many things I never knew about these people, they're amazing.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 12:47 PM
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34. he's a very humble man.
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toadzilla Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-21-07 10:55 AM
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33. Dennis the menace to the status quo!
If I can't have Al Gore, Dennis would make me just as happy.
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