The "Ah Ha" moment Was Not Waterboarding

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Patient has.

The aha moment might not be something that was said but something unsaid. Or a look or an evasion.

Really we will never know.

Confusing. Sounds like he is reiterating the mosaic was assembled from many pieces and some of those pieces included information gotten from torture. A mosaic by its nature is the overall result of an assembly of various pieces and not any single 'ah-hah' moment.

Panetta appears to have been a little too candid and now it seems WH sources are trying to walk things back saying 'maybe it would or maybe it wouldn't have made a difference'. Unfortunately I think Panetta confirms torture played a part, if you consider that a mosaic works because off its various pieces combined, and he only questions whether that info could have been gotten in another way, not that it actually was gotten in another way.

Very confusing and disturbing because it sounds remarkably different from what Senator Feinstein argued - that NONE of it came from it. Wish politicians had only one side of their mouth that they could speak out from.
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Panetta:

BRIAN WILLIAMS: Can you confirm that it was as a result of water boarding that we learned what we needed to learn to go after Bin Laden?

LEON PANETTA: Brian, in the intelligence business you work from a lot of sources of information and that was true here… It's a little difficult to say it was due just to one source of information that we got… I think some of the detainees clearly were, you know, they used these enhanced interrogation techniques against some of these detainees. But I'm also saying that, you know, the debate about whether we would have gotten the same information through other approaches I think is always going to be an open question.

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Feinstein:

"To the best of our knowledge, based on a look, none of it came as a result of harsh interrogation practices," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee.

Moreover, Feinstein added, nothing about the sequence of events that culminated in Sunday's raid vindicates the Bush-era techniques, nor their use of black sites -- secret prisons, operated by the CIA.

"Absolutely not, I do not," Feinstein said. "I happen to know a good deal about how those interrogations were conducted, and in my view nothing justifies the kind of procedures that were used."