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rjones2818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:03 AM
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Kucinich on Moyers' Journal!
 
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Go Dennis! :woohoo:
http://dennis4president.com
Vote your conscience, choose peace!
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:05 AM
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1. I watched that,
He was great! Ron Pau.l was on it too. :hi:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:12 AM
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2. But Edwards was not invited. Not even mentionted, I heard. Interesting.
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 12:13 AM by JDPriestly
I wonder how Moyers will explain that.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 02:55 AM
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7. Maybe Moyers thinks the corporate media have tried to
marginalize them???

from the weekly email

"NEWSLETTER - Friday, January 4, 2008

What now? Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich hot off the Iowa campaign trail.

This week on BILL MOYERS JOURNAL (check local listings)


Thousands of media outlets descended on Iowa, erecting a powerful wall of TV cameras and reporters between the voters and candidates. This week on BILL MOYERS JOURNAL in two interviews, Bill Moyers talks with Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich, candidates with an inside view of the process who know well the power of the press to set expectations and transform the agenda..."


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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:05 AM
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8. The corporate media has marginalized Edwards.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:19 AM
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11. Edwards has almost always been mentioned in the corporate
media and received top tier time in the debates.

He says he will take on the corporations and he could start by speaking out on the draft Iraq Oil Law, instead he says nothing.

He is saying the right things, personally I do not think he is sincere.
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maxanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:26 AM
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20. huh?
aw, poor Edwards - being called "top tier", one of the "top three" and getting a large share of time in the debates. Every candidate should be so marginalized.
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DutchLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-06-08 09:11 PM
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24. You're funny.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:43 AM
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3. he`s the guy with the plan....
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 05:16 AM
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13. More than one as he's running sort of contingencies based on certain
outcomes. Now I would like to see his plans for our nation go into effect with DK as our president and I trust him more than any of the other candidates. He knew by previous run-ins in Iowa that he was going to have trouble there regardless and wanted some damage control because by all other polls he has more of a challenge by Edwards than Obama and the opportunity presented itself to throw hillary back. With aspects of the Democratic party and the msm going against him he is trying his best to get elected with limited funds and still needs our support. It may not work out the way DK and us want, but let's not give up on him unless he gives up. Trust him as he's much smarter than many give him credit for.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:53 AM
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4. Dennis On Why He Chose Obama Over Edwards... While Talking About
CORPORATE GREED and MEDIA domination, Dennis Kucinich decides on Obama and says this..."The WHY of it would probably require more time than we have."

When Moyers read from what John Edwards has stated over and over -- his objections about Corporate Greed & Media Domination... Dennis Kucinich decides Obama should be given support! Obama who has accepted a great deal of money and EVEN MORE media attention than almost any other Democratic candidate other than Hillary Clinton, Dennis Kucinich says he chooses Obama, but ONLY for Iowa, not NH!

NO, Dennis I think you're being too cute by half!! And yes, it perhaps was because you wanted Clinton beaten, but you know what? You may have opened a can of worms that you probably shouldn't have. While I support Edwards, I understood and felt the same way as you on many issues, I'm now wondering just what the HELL you're trying to do!! Obama, who has had constant media attention from the get go, and you must KNOW there is a reason behind it, yet YOU pick him (just for Iowa) and tell your supporters to vote for him tells me something about YOU that is very unsettling.

I'm sorry, I'm really sorry Dennis Kucinich, and "the why" would probably require more time than we have!



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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 01:25 AM
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5. The answer is obvious,
Dennis doesn't believe him.

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:06 AM
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9. Dennis is jealous.
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 08:29 AM
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16. Neither do I.
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 08:40 AM by cyclezealot
I'll stick with Kucinich. 1. Edwards healthcare plan is unacceptable. 2. O'Bama at least unlike Edwards was paired against the Iraq war; 3. O'Bama. unlike Edwards, was not a floor leader for the Iraq war along with Lieberman. 4. Kucinich's move is just a tactical move. / We did not cut any slack for John Kerry panderings in 2004, and feel the same about Edwards now. From the Senate war vote in 2002.
The Senate H.J. # 46 resolution from the Fall of 2002. Edwards was Lieberman's floor handler. We will only be forced to be behind Edwards after we vote my truc convictions on healthcare and war.


THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
OCTOBER 2, 2002
Mr. LIEBERMAN (for himself , Mr. WARNER, Mr. BAYH, Mr. MCCAIN, Mr.
MCCONNELL, Mr. DOMENICI, Mr. HUTCHINSON, Ms. LANDRIEU, Mr. ALLARD,
Mr. HELMS, Mr. MILLER, and Mr. EDWARDS) introduced the followingjoint resolution ; which was read the first time
OCTOBER 3, 2002
Read the second time and placed on the calendar
JOINT RESOLUTION
To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against
Iraq.

JOINT RESOLUTION
To authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against
Iraq.

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maximusveritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 09:35 AM
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17. Exactly. That's why he emphasized Obama's "sincerity"
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 09:36 AM by maximusveritas
He obviously didn't want to come across as too negative, but he can now see Edwards for what he is: someone who will say whatever it takes to win. He's as two-faced as they come.

Obama may be pushing for modest change, but at least you know he'll stay true to his principles. With Edwards, it depends which way the winds are blowing.
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Snotcicles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:40 PM
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22. No Dennis is a politician and he wants Obama's Michigan votes.
Being that Obama and Edwards are not on the Michigan ballot. He probably is taking the Michigan Edwards supporters for granted because their positions are so similar. He can pick up Obama votes that he would not have gotten if he had not made a deal.
I voted absentee for Kucinich before he made that statement. I wish I had not done that now. Dennis Kucinich has lost my respect. I urge ALL Michigan Edwards supporters to vote undeclared and let the cards fall where they may. My wife will be at the polls to counter my vote.
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kster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 01:58 AM
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6. Thanks, but I will wait for Kucinich to make an online video
as to why he chose Obama over Edwards on the online video he will have all the time he needs. Kucinich has been on mark with me to date, so I will give him the benefit of doubt.

Break out the video Kucinich, there are many who need to know, WHY!!!

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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 07:06 AM
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15. The answer to why is strategy...
Obama took Hillary down a rung or two. While Edwards would have also, there are fewer differentiators between Dennis and John. Why help to elevate your closest competitor?

-Hoot
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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 12:09 PM
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21. Exactly...Edwards is playing the game like he's closest to DK
plus he voted for the war- even tho he said he was wrong. Too easy to do something then change your mind about it later.

But yeah, the Iowa thing....pure strategy on Dennis' part.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:10 AM
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10. Why not post the entire Q&A, not very flattering for Edwards IMO.
Edited on Sat Jan-05-08 03:11 AM by slipslidingaway
First Bill Moyers says that Edwards must have lifted (that line) from Kucinich's speeches and then for the second time in a couple of days when asked 'Why Obama?' Dennis mentions his sincerity. Maybe he thinks Obama is more sincere??? I'm sure there are other reasons.

Dennis was the person who voted against the corporations and for the people when it mattered on the China Trade bill, Patriot Act, Iraq War and bankruptcy bill, Edwards did not.


http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/01042008/transcript4.html

"BILL MOYERS: I know. But John Edwards talks more like you-- John Edwards has said, quote, I absolutely believe to my soul that this corporate greed and corporate power has an iron-clad hold on our democracy. I thought, "He must have lifted that right out of Dennis Kucinich's speeches." You say that all the time. And yet you said go for Obama, not for Edwards.

DENNIS KUCINICH: You know, I thought Senator Obama offered an approach and has the kind of sincerity that deserved recommendation only on that second ballot. Because when he comes to New Hampshire, I'm sincerely trying to get more votes than him.



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frog92969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 03:52 AM
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12. "I know these people"
He doesn't trust Edwards, and neither do I.

They can say anything to kiss your ass for votes, but the records don't change.
Obviously we all have the interweb, for Dog's sake use it and investigate these people your trying to give the new B*$h powers to.(not you slip, good post)
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 02:33 PM
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23. Welcome to DU. Yes, when words are inconsistent with actions
it gives me pause, strategy and sincerity were the reasons I believe.
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Nick_Irving Donating Member (53 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 06:31 AM
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14. Go Dennis!
Great interview. Good to know more about the Obama move.
Thanks for posting!
Nick
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Blackdog4241 Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 10:28 AM
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18. I could have taken..
the fast track to the governorship but I work for the People.
Truth like this is hard to find.
That's the kind of person I want to lead us.

Bravo Dennis !!!!!
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-05-08 11:12 AM
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19. Americans in General are not Intelligent Enough
to vote for this guy. They're afraid of him because the media made fun of him. Children who can't tell when they're being led by the nose. Too bad, imagine the greatness our country could achieve under honest, compassionate, intelligent, anti-corporate leadership. Instead we contemplate, with elation, the advent of 4 to 8 more years of the same leadership we've had, where the only REAL difference is the party affiliation.
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