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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:04 AM
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Why The Chris Matthews Apology Is Good For The Democratic Party
Edited on Sat Jan-19-08 11:35 AM by ihavenobias
 
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TYT breaks down the Matthews apology. Was he sincere? And if he was, was it a good sign for the Democratic Party?

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:09 AM
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1. Good gawd. Matthews does go on and on.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:13 AM
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2. He only apologized for one comment. He has been spewing
sexist crap at Hillary for years. So no, it was not sincere.

His bosses made him do it and he still made it about him and his "good heart"
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:16 AM
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3. It's funny that you put it that way
Did you watch the video clip of Cenk breaking down the apology?
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:40 AM
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4. No I didn't watch it. I saw Tweets do it on his show. You really want
to put me through that again? I'll give it a whirl and get back to you
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:50 AM
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7. No, you don't *have* to watch the whole apology over, just watch the analysis!
I wouldn't have posted a clip that only showed Matthews apologizing because most people have seen that. That's the beauty of fast forward, you can watch the start, skip over Matthews and hear the analysis!
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 12:13 PM
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8. Yes this is the first time an apology was given to a dem and
that is a good thing. However, Tweets is such a drooling letch and sexist pig

I don't think he can be rehabbed out of that. It is too ingrained
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:40 AM
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5. Chris is a little slow on the uptake. He has made a living carrying Bush's water
now it is coming to him that he better make friends with the next president who ever it is. So he is on his knees before Clinton.

I don't want Matthews to be on our side. He made his bed, he can pee in it.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 11:44 AM
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6. it's possible Tweety's wife was offended by what he said
just a guess. :shrug:
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:15 PM
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9. This young Turk needs to "lean in" and do some more research on Chris M.
He has a consistent unbeatable (dare I say the word ) misogynistic tempo to all his relations (on TV) and conversations with women. There is a thread on DU this very day that outlines the tree types of misogynistic men. Chris falls into the third category. The, "who me couldn't be", "I just don't understand what they are complaining about?", " I'm just saying the truth." "I love women" (or politicians), type.

Do research into this man's work and you will not have to go to far to see his strange behavior around women and sex. Some say it's around sex in general regardless of the gender. I leave that to others to judge. i have never seen that. But I do remember very well his comment to his fellow reporter to have her "Lean in" and as she was a beauty queen earlier in her career and she was wearing a shirt that was a v-neck (people are allowed to do so without being verbally assaulted and having their professional life disrupted) the entire viewing audience new exactly what he meant. She however looked confused, at least at first. then I'm sue she was furious.

He has more to apologizes for that this last comment and more soul searching to do before he even tries.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:30 PM
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11. I don't doubt that Matthews will inwardly continue to be
sexist. I'm sure there are plenty of racist/sexist/xenophobic/(fill in the blank pejorative phrase) people on television but they have varying degrees of how well they hide it (or don't).

The question is, how will Matthews act *outwardly* going forward. And no, I don't think that's the same issue. Besides, no one is saying people should go out and listen to Chris Matthews for insightful information (I'm not and I know Cenk isn't). Cenk has ripped on Matthews many times for his various stupid statements (as have I). When Chris interviewed Elizabeth Edwards I wanted to punch my television during the discussion of trial lawyers...Matthews was blatantly biased against them!

At any rate, The Young Turk in question did a popular segment on January 10th breaking down how differently Matthews covered Giuliani vs how he covered Clinton:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-VNhxbm_o

You may not always agree, but he's very fair.
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Sam Ervin jret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:44 PM
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14. Men ( and women) need to educate themselves and pick a side.
I know that sounds defensive or confrontational but let's face it - Women have been taking it as the weaker (physically) sex for too long and the time for might making right in all segments of our world is OVER.

Because women have been physically smaller throughout the ages and cultures and because might and physical strength has meant "I get to make the rules" guess which half of the human population has been getting the short end of the proverbial stick? Ever since Lucy (and the evidence shows it was Lucy ) first stood up on two legs and looked around the savanna she and her sisters and daughters have had to use their brains and their wits to get by.

Well guess what? It's time now that MEN start to understand that the time of MIGHT MAKES RIGHT is over. If the past seven years of war with one side being the mighty USA and the other being (? what Bush's shadow? I don't know?)has proven it's that the MIGHTY have definitely FALLEN.

And the rest of you men and women need to see that words matter. How a man address you, speaks about you , your manner, your voice and all the code words in the bag of tricks that the word-masters of darkness use to denigrate, subjugate, or marginalize you matter. A lot. They have known it a long time, How do you think we got into this war?

Chris needs to learn, but more important than Chris, the Men we count on, the ones that seem to "get" everything else politically need to educate themselves on this. I have four brothers, a husband of 26 years, and two sons. I know how hard it is to admit you could possibly have any of those ideas. But you do. You could not be brought up in this world without them anymore than a white person could be free of the preconceived ideas about black people that have been fed to us all our lives. It does not make us evil. It only makes us responsible to learn. To look at ourselves with an honest eye. And fix what we can the best we can.
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creeksneakers2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 01:24 PM
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10. A big achievement for the net
A media outlet listened to their E-mails for once.
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peacetheonlyway Donating Member (948 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 05:33 PM
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12. NO PARDONS FOR MISOGYNIST MATTHEWS and BAD MEDIA
tweety is a wishy washy, stand for nothing media mouthpiece of the corporate and military industrial complex.

I think the Young Turks should apologize for giving tweety a pardon.

Why do great Democrats, great democratic people have weak / spineless side to them?

where is the strength.


YOUNG TURKS.. this was a bad day in your history.

as a woman who find Matthews not only ANTI FEMALE but ANTI little guy, his blathering on about the folks who have nothing is not only horse manure, it smacks of METHINKS thou dost protest too much.

I give tweety one month before MSNBC cancels his contract.
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sallyseven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 06:54 PM
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13. One month that long??
I just turned off MSNBC because he had one of his crappy round tables on. Howard(A Hole) Friedman, Peggy (the ho) Noonan and a couple of others I didn't wait to find out. He will let them trash Hillary. Then he looks magnanimous. I did see Ann Lewis smack him around.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:52 PM
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15. I respect your opinion
And we'll see what happens. I still think an MSM figure publicly apologizing to a Democrat is a positive thing, regardless of the sincerity of the apology in question.

As for "dark days" I think that's a bit much. It's just a difference of opinion and I respect that you have a strong and sincere one.

PS---http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV-VNhxbm_o
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mfox789 Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-19-08 07:58 PM
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16. Matthews' Apology
Nice analysis.
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