Cenk Ran Into Staunch Pro-Life Actor Who Played Jesus In Passion Of The Christ And...

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I have to say, Cenk is MORE than fair here and I'm not sure how I would've handled this encounter. Then again maybe I just think that because I, like him, am agnostic and generally have harsh criticisms of religious fundamentalism. Then again Cenk does too, usually...


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between the positions taken by these anti-choice, anti-common sense people and the pro-choice, pro-common sense crowd. The anti-choice people are trying to legislate a loss of your freedoms - they want you to be less free and less in charge of your own life. The pro-choice folks are trying to help keep your freedoms, keep you ability to make your own decisions. One oppresses and the other liberates - to me that is a huge difference (I don't care how nice and sincere the oppressor is, I still will not like him)...

In fairness to Cenk, I actually *don't* think mose of them have the (conscious) goal of getting rid of "choice". I say this as a die-hard agnostic (atheist for all practical purposes, I just recognize I can't technically disprove God). I really do think that MOST of the people *believe* it's a moral issue and that loss of choice is simply a side effect, not a goal.

Now if you're talking about some of the leaders of the various pro-life movements (and going back to the origins of some of these beliefs), then yes, IMO, clearly oppression is/was much more of a factor.

PS---I wouldn't have edited this clip in the way they did. Cenk had quite a bit more to say on religion that wasn't quite so positive but for whatever reason, this clip didn't include that (altough if you watch his show or read his articles you'd be aware of those positions quite clearly). The funny thing is, if it had included that, it would likely anger a different group of people as well. Such is the nature of having your personal opinions be made public...you can never make all of the people happy all of the time, which isn't the goal to begin with.

We all seem to have some rather strong opinions around here and there is plenty to disagree about. God knows I wouldn't be willing to put all of my opinions up for that level of public scrutiny. I actually think Cenk was pretty fair. He told the guy he strongly disagreed and there were no personal attacks. I'm not sure why that's such a bad thing.

I never would have watched it without the play by play, and it was so good, I joined The Young Turks.

Even before they were sacked by Air America, the other two hosts where never on the show. It was just the Cenk guy and whoever he could get to sit in on the show. Some shows, it was just him.

Technically we don't know what happened between TYT and Air America. I've heard a few different things, including that AA couldn't afford to put on a morning show anymore. TYT did have a horrible time-slot IMO, and I know they did really well on Sirius (which is why AA picked them up in the first place).

AT any rate, Jill started a new career in Washington and Ben now works for TMZ. Yes, THAT TMZ. He couldn't resist the money, but I'm guessing he'd love to take the same pay and talk politics instead of that celebrity junk.

And as you pointed out, the show now has Cenk alone sometimes or various rotating co-hosts like Sam Seder, Wes Clark Jr, Michael Shure and Christy Harvey.

PS---Air America has a history of losing their best talent. Everyone can chime in with examples, but the most recent is firing Ken Jones from the Maddow show.

The crew all have on air segments and chime in all the time. It's a great, talented group. Cenk will grow on you if you stick around.

As far as lost talents, Marc Maron, Sam Seder and Mike Milloy come to mind.

Which made her participation in the show seem kinda weird. I listen to Air America on XM. They were replaced with Bill Press. It's not bad. It's a lot better then Lionel. I hate that show. I wish that they would put Maddow on in the mornings again.

He'd been with Rachel for so long.

loving message of "give life a chance."

My debate is on several sides If life is sacred at least be consistent.

1. Life is sacred, the death penalty takes life away, the death penalty is against the saving of life.

2.If Life is sacred before birth it is no less after. so you must also support programs that support life. a. support health care for all, is this even debatable, healthcare saves lives, lives are sacred, you must support heatlhcare for all.
b. Bombs AND WAR KILL, support peace activity every where. Jesus did.

Many have killed in the name of Jesus. Who asked them to? I've read his words. It's easy you guys they are usually the ones in RED in the BIBLE. The rest of the stuff is he said, she said.

well, Mostly, He said, he said, but that's a story for another day.

But this is the MORAL ARGUMENT. In THE LEGAL ARGUMENT you have as much RIGHT LEGALLY IN AMERICA to tell me that I have to save an unborn life(agreed sacred and morally I should do so) as I do to TELL YOU YOU MUST GIVE UP YOUR LEFT KIDNEY for your brother, sister, son, daughter, complete stranger(morally yes you should but do you want to live in a land where the government tells you you must). After all you would be saving a LIFE. DO YOU WANT THAT LIFE TO DIE. YOU HAVE IT IN YOUR power to save that life.

And do not give me the argument that there is a difference between, saving a life (ie giving a kidney and putting your life at risk) and not giving life a chance (or not killing as some like to say). Let me tell you, many a woman has died "not saving a life but just not killing it." Your body is never the same, and no I do not mean cosmetically. My mother was pregnant 13 times, had 7 children and 6 miscarriages. She broke her hip 3 times before she was 60 years old, and died before she was 64.

Ask not of others that which you yourself would not do for a stranger. But do for a stranger that which you would have done to you.

(At least I assume he does based on the other 99% of things he's said on these topics)

I've written extensively (not here at DU, primarily b/c open criticism of religion seems to offend far too many people here IMO) on the problems I have with religious fundamentalism of all types, and the hypocrisy you bring up is a big one. This is especially true of Christianity IME, but only because I'm the most familiar with it (experience with Catholicism) and it's ubiquitous here in the US.

And again, you're preaching to the choir here (no pun intended of course). I'm guessing a LOT of religious people here would be quite angry if they knew what I really thought about many of these beliefs. Of course I don't go out of my way to be disrespectful, but sometimes an honest expression of differing opinion is taken to be a personal attack which is why I generally avoid the issue (here).

that if your a catholic you should follow your conscience and it's interpretation of scripture with the assistance of not the dictation of the people who share your faith including the pope. If your an AMERICAN OFFICIAL SWORN TO UPHOLD THE CONSTITUTION YOU SHOULD FOLLOW THE CONSTITUTION.

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Never let anyone do your "faith thinking for you." To have it, not to have it, what type to have.