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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:35 PM
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The Mudcat lobby: Stop Hillary
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The Mudcat lobby: Stop Hillary

Edwards advisor Mudcat Saunders, tribune of the working-class rural white guy, on MSNBC not long ago:

I can't speak for John. I can say this that, you know, being a southerner, being a rural American who's been completely devastated by the trade policies of the Clintons, I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that he does not endorse Hillary Clinton.

He says it's about NAFTA, and the 22nd Amendment. Full transcript after the jump.


Norah O'Donnell: Clearly, both Clinton and Obama are courting Edwards'endorsement. Mudcat, who do you think it's more likely he would endorse?

Mudcat Saunders: Well, you know, you'd have to ask John that. I got off the phone with him this morning and, heck, I talked to him longer than usual. I think today John is really interested in making sure that his staff is okay because, you know, there are a lot of passionate people on this staff. But, you know, I can't speak for John. I can say this that, you know, being a southerner, being a rural American who's been completely devastated by the trade policies of the
Clintons, I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure that he does not endorse Hillary Clinton.

Norah: And why is that? That you're going to do everything in your power to make sure that John Edwards does not endorse Hillary Clinton?

Mudcat: Well, because I believe in the 22nd amendment to the constitution and I think that this thing is in violation of it.

Norah: Mean having -

Mudcat: Like I said, that when I'm traveling now up through north Georgia, passing towns and be going through South Carolina and turn over into the Appalachians and everything looks like, you know,
Sherman went through it but didn't burn thing, I think there is accountability involved there. For Hillary Clinton to continue to talk about the unintended consequences of NAFTA -- they weren't unintended, they were unconsidered. You know, we all heard about the giant sucking
sound when they first started talking about this. I just don't think the Clintons have been a friend of my people out in rural America.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0108/The_Mudcat_lobby_Stop_Hillary.html
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jasmine621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:36 PM
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1. It's sad when Dems have to be about "stopping" one of their own
instead of just supporting their own candidate.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:37 PM
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2. NAFTA?
That was passed in the 1990s, wasn't it?

And Hillary became a senator in ... 2000?

--p!
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Windy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:38 PM
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3. She is running as an incumbent. Her husband supported Nafta.
She supports nafta.

Read your candidates positions.
Good for Mudcat!!!
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:27 PM
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5. I guess we can hang Teddy's failures on Obama now, too
After all, he's running on the Kennedy Legacy.

Read your Kennedy history.
Not 100% wonderful!!!

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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 03:41 PM
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4. I thought she was the one with 35 years making change.
Which set of talking points do you want to work with?

Fact Check: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x4271686
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:29 PM
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6. Yes, and Teddy has 45 years
Let's see what set of talking points you decide to use.

Oh, wait a minute. You don't use talking points. You use the truth. Only people you disagree with use talking points.

--p!
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-30-08 06:39 PM
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7. But to be fair
you can't have it both ways. Either she HAS a lot of experience and was involved during Bill's presidency (and therefore NAFTA is a consideration) *or* she wasn't and it isn't.

It's seems dishonest to suggest that she has all of the good experience from the 90's but none of the bad.
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