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Dissenting_Prole Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 09:13 PM
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The End of Suburbia trailer
 
Run time: 02:47
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHr8OzaloLM
 
Posted on YouTube: June 29, 2006
By YouTube Member: endofsuburbia
Views on YouTube: 157724
 
Posted on DU: December 10, 2006
By DU Member: Dissenting_Prole
Views on DU: 1834
 
"We're literally stuck up a cul-de-sac in a cement SUV without a fill-up" - James Howard Kunstler
Are today's suburbs destined to become the slums of tomorrow?
A 78-minute documentary about the end of the age of cheap oi
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Freedom_from_Chains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 09:29 PM
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1. Ther's a lot of truth in that clip. n/t
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 09:54 PM
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2. Suburbs are already turning into the new slums
There are now more people living in poverty in suburbs than in the inner city.

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Dissenting_Prole Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:28 AM
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9. and here's a news story to back you up

Poverty shifts to the suburbs
Suburban poor outnumber their inner-city counterparts for the first time

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16077694/
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 11:42 AM
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10. Thanks, it was late
and I didn't feel like digging through my web history.

Instead of a wall of affluent suburbia surrounding the sink of poverty in inner city tenements, we're going to slowly go back to the historical pattern of the wealthy city surrounded by the less affluent who serve it, with a ghetto here and there for the underclass who live on the garbage.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 10:46 PM
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3. the purpose is to destroy individualism
A car-required society involves every person working, and more taxes taken in,
as everyone must pay for the expense of their cars. This was planned by
the invisible hand to take away any private time to question the slavery paradigm.
That same invisible hand is destroying lifelong human relationships for similar
reasons, that people's labor be more and more 'flexible', and desperate to
please the bossman who holds the money-keys to surviving.

The car culture and the entire marketing of it, is designed to be the very opposite
of what they say. It is not a freedom and liberty culture, but a one of perfect
ordered slavery and groupthink where nobody can avoid being sucked in to their
transport distopia. Then the masses of humanity will be so busy running on the
hamster wheels trying to pay for their medicines and transport, that they will
never organize politically, leaving the existing elites in position to pilliage
the public as needed.

Its not a dem or puke thing, the corporate system is 1 party, that of the enslavement of humankind;
all under the auspices of spreading iraq-style democracy and Los Angeles style communities that
only have intensive race riots every coupla decades.

People are upset at being slaves, and rightfully blame suburbia city planning,
but without a bigger picture view on the deliberate designs of the planners of olde,
in reducing and controlling a population to become perfect consumers, what can they do
but complain about the stupid theme of the play we're all acting in.
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Indiana_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 11:12 PM
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4. awesome post!
Is this a quote or did you write this yourself!?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 11:54 PM
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6. self composed
I'm just frustrated with blaming the suburbs as if the planning was an accident,
when the system itself was long planned to ghettoize the people voluntarily in
to their own prison cells by order of the neo-victorian planners.

:-) I write all my own posts, using italics if i quote someone.

namaste,

-s
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Dissenting_Prole Donating Member (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 09:21 AM
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8. These ideas are the subtlely addressed in the documentary
Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 09:24 AM by Dissenting_Prole
It also briefly describes how the suburbs were no "accident".

"Irony was the ethos of the late-20th century..." - James Kunstler
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:20 PM
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12. but to what depth
The difference between 'no accident', and a 'deliberate plan to
destroy and enslave individualism', is one where we excuse the
history that they keep hidden... where we apologize for the lords
of previous times who are busy with their latest scottish clearances
in an effort to engineer the ideal life, a citizen without free time.

The video is good and exposes the head of the iceburg, and we
need to take it further to expose in its full depth, the planning
behind the corporate consumerism single party state... and why
it is impossible to vote against it... just like the communists in the USSR.
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angry_chuck Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 04:04 PM
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13. have you read
The Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edwawrd Griffin?

I think you would appreciate the research contained within.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:38 PM
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14. just ordered it up
At first the jekyll thing threw me off... but its about the federal reserve.

Even an expensive book is 2 for 1 in pounds, all the USA has a 'for sale' sign in
the window.

Thank you for that recommendation.
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angry_chuck Donating Member (346 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:40 PM
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16. oh man it goes so
Edited on Sun Dec-10-06 07:40 PM by angry_chuck
much deeper than just the federal (as federal as federal express griffin says) reserve. The NWO has its slimy claws in many things. His research is expansive and thorough as well as impeccably documented. A good choice friend.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-09-06 11:17 PM
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5. Very informative movie
It is well worth watching.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:53 AM
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7. Mass transit is the only solution.
Look at Europe, for example.
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 02:15 PM
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11. is it?
Europe has the same car problems as the US. The older cities that were built before
cars, are certainly denser and better suited for mass transit solutions. But the
newer cities and suburbs of europe are not much different than their american
counterparts. There, mass transit, is no more a solution than it is in montana.

Though Europe has a bigger population than the US, the biggest cities are not near
as large as the US mega-cities. More of the population is in smaller towns and
villiages not served by major transport, and less visited by US tourists who don't
see how much europe too is dependent on cars.

There you will see, much like with parts of the US that are poor communities in
montana, wyoming, idaho, rural areas have no alternative to vehicles, but were
the communities themselves better designed, those vehicles would only be necessary
for long journeys.

That communities are not designed with pedestrians and bicycles as the priority-1
transports with rights to public spaces, is part of it. Cars should be given the
lowest traffic priority at the very least, and even in suburbs this would bring
out altnernatives that are driven off the roads by hummers and trucks.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 07:50 PM
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17. Good points, but
I guess I was thinking of cities such as the one in which I live. Here we do have light rail transit that reaches to the 'burbs and people can ditch their cars at the transit (park and ride) stations to ride the bus as well. I don't see why this cannot be extended into other surburban areas in other large cities of the U.S. I know Denver has been working on its light rail system for a long time now and I believe it does at least go as far as first-tier suburban areas of the city. Regarding Europe, I distinctly recall riding the RATP out to smaller cities around Paris such as Versailles. It seemed to be used heavily and worked rather well.
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pstans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 08:34 PM
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18. Not all cities are like St. Paul
Try going to Houston, Vegas, or Atlanta.
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Contrite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-11-06 12:13 AM
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19. I have and I know the sprawl is greater
than Mpls.-St. Paul but I still think mass transit can be at least a partial solution to the problem
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rman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 01:45 PM
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21. Mass transit does not solve the problem of peak oil
Mass transit will go nowhere when the oil runs out - unless the essence of the problem is solved: reliance on fossil fuel.

Mass transit will help, but it is far from the only solution.
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flying_wahini Donating Member (856 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-10-06 05:57 PM
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15.  Thanks for the post,
saw this show about a year ago; it is well worth watching,
recommend that you have a group showing for all the ney-sayers -
it packs a powerful punch......
esp here in Houston where people love to drive their SUV
"dump trucks"
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-14-06 05:38 AM
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20. The whole film was on YouTube
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