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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:44 PM
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As a Texan I am disgusted but not surprised.
But hey, when repukes control your state and when they refuse to police the industry, this is what you get. I remember the day, just 12 years ago when I could drive from home to work in the early morning and on clear, sunny days see the skyline of Dallas. A scant two years later I noticed smog creeping in, and now my state is one of the most polluted. And the pasty a$$ repukes who follow the almighty dollar do nothing! Assholes!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070602/ap_on_sc/global_warming_states;_ylt=AtKhFqQVaKvbFwVJdDgH2tEPLBIF

Blame coal: Texas leads carbon emissions

WASHINGTON - America may spew more greenhouse gases than any other country, but some states are astonishingly more prolific polluters than others — and it's not always the ones you might expect.

The Associated Press analyzed state-by-state emissions of carbon dioxide from 2003, the latest U.S. Energy Department numbers available. The review shows startling differences in states' contribution to climate change.

The biggest reason? The burning of high-carbon coal to produce cheap electricity.

_Wyoming's coal-fired power plants produce more carbon dioxide in just eight hours than the power generators of more populous Vermont do in a year.

_Texas, the leader in emitting this greenhouse gas, cranks out more than the next two biggest producers combined, California and Pennsylvania, which together have twice Texas' population.
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:45 PM
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1. k&r from another Texan...n/t
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:50 PM
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2. And they want to build more!
ohh, but they say it's "clean." Fuck them. And TXU too.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:11 PM
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14. I think, but I could be wrong, that the plan
was derailed because TXU is being bought out. Have you noticed all the eco-friendly dribble advertising now from TXU? Like I really believe it. :eyes:
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:19 PM
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19. Yeah I know
I especially like the "lower prices" bullshit. I want to stab my eye out every time I see one of those damn commercials.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:52 PM
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3. some days
you just wake up wishing that mexico had fought a little harder to keep that piece of land down there.
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sanskritwarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:13 PM
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16. My home state might be embarassing some times, but
that shit is not helpful. There are millions of Texas Democrats and many of us bristle everytime someone makes a cheap shot like this......
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:52 PM
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4. San Juan County, NM, is one of the most polluted counties
in the country, all due to a coal fired power plant to the west. There are correspondingly high rates of respiratory illness including high per capita childhood asthma.

Even the Grand Canyon no longer has its crystal clear air when the wind is just wrong.

Coal plants need to do a much better job of scrubbing their emissions. There is no chance for that while the GOP is in control.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:57 PM
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5. K&R from two more Texans! We live in the Hill Country 60
miles north of San Antonio and 125 miles west of Austin. This area is not densely popluated so it isn't bad here. However, we took a trip to Houston a few weeks ago, just an overnight, and I can not express how good it was to get back here to breathe! Our relatives in Houston think we're nuts for living out here because we could make more money in Houston (my husband was raised there)however, we wouldn't give this up for money! Two of his three sisters have had cancer, he has two aunts with it now and lost his 52 yr. old brother to cancer in 2005. Another aunt is having big heart trouble, undiagnosed as yet, and his mother was choking and coughing on the phone today! Neither of these last two smoke....they live very squeaky clean lives. Tell me the pollution isn't affecting them! If you were to tell me that I wouldn't believe you.
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sanskritwarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:14 PM
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17. Huh small world
my folks retired out in the Hill Country, Southwest of Fredricksburg......
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:06 PM
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23. Well, they have to be close!! We're in Ingram about 30 miles
west of Fredricksburg. How do they find the air quality?
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sanskritwarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:08 PM
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24. I don't know I've never asked them that
I live in hawaii, air quality here is good.......
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 09:51 AM
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34. I can only imagine...you're a lucky person....enjoy!
Years ago people came here to the Hill Country for the good air and cooler summer temperatures....and I think it's still pretty good.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:17 PM
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18. Worst air I ever breathed was in Houston
It stung my eyes, made my lungs sore and damn near blot out the setting sun...

Worse than anything in the LA Basin or what I saw in Mexico City. I don't know how people can live in that.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:17 PM
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26. I agree it's awful. I'm not a native Texan. I lived many years
west of Chicago. Chicago and northern Indiana have mass transportation.....other than a short, short train line downtown Houston near the hospitals I saw next to nothing for mass transit. But boy do they have the cars! Nightmare....choking on their fumes! AND, they're building huge new roads and expanding old ones! No wonder they couldn't get out when that hurricane hit (forgot the name of it) after Katrina. I don't know why every big city doesn't have the trains like they have in D.C. ... they are wonderful....smooth,quiet,fast and on time...at least that was my experience.
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sanskritwarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 09:38 AM
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33. Worst air I ever breathed was Ontario, California
I couldn't even see the mountains that were only a few miles away..........LA Basin and Houston keep duking it out for worst air........
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Jazzgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 10:20 AM
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35. I gag everytime I fly into Ontario.
The last time when were were flying over the mountains I looked down and couldn't see anything on the ground the smog was so bad. It was awful.
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sanskritwarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 10:24 AM
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36. Hey fellow Texan
a guy I went to high school with is a Professor at UTA.......I just went into the Army, he's got tenure, hell of a world........ :)
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 03:57 PM
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6. They're just protecting their white male Christian power structure.
http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/05/31/bill-oreilly-the-white-christian-male-power-structure-is-in-jeopardy/

Why do you hate America and its white male Christian power structure?

:sarcasm:
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:30 PM
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7. i bet a goodly percentage of that smoog is from China..
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:41 PM
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8. That's so sad. What is Texas like for wind and sunshine?

It would seem like a great place to put solar/wind farms due to sheer size.


Are there any?
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 10:46 PM
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30. I think there may be few wind and solar farms
but nothing large scale. As far as wind goes though, I read that Texas would be a great place for some wind farms. I wish I could remember where I read that.
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MUAD_DIB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 01:18 AM
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31. They've been trying to put a wind farm off the Vinyard for a few years,
but the Uber Rich are offended that their perfect view will be spoiled from their yachts.

Can't have that now can we. :eyes:
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:41 PM
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9. I'm so sorry for you
sane Texans!~ Texas would be a righteous, beautiful state if it were not for the fascists permeating its state halls and festering with megalomaniacs like that swiftboat financier..whatever the name is.
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judaspriestess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:43 PM
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10. as another Texan I am deeply saddened by the
strangle hold the pukes have had on Texas for such a long time.

I live in Nevada now.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:48 PM
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11. Well, if it makes you feel any better
Bush isn't a native Texan as you may know, he's from Connecticut. Not that that really has much to do with what we're talking about, but I'm just trying to cheer you up.

There's lots of good, progressive Texans, and you really shouldn't feel responsible for what others do that you have no control over. It's not your fault. Just keep fightin' the fight and maybe one day you'll have yourselves a major victory down there.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 04:54 PM
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12. My DH and I used to spend time in Texas every year
when Ann Richards was Governor. Even though the ranchers were Republicans we noticed that the air was clean and that the roads were well maintained unlike other states with Republican governors. I'm not surprised that things have changed.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 09:36 AM
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32. It's bad Cleita. Ever since * became governor
any oversight over any industry was stopped. That is why we had Enron and the horrible polluting of the environment run amok. Heck, the deregulation of the energy industry in Texas was supposed to help consumers according to repukes. It hasn't and Texas has seen costs to consumers skyrocket much, much faster than the national average. I love my state, (I've actually got roots here going back to 1815 and one of my relatives founded Jacksonville, Tx), but I am sick of carpetbagging politicos.
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Melissa G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:07 PM
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13. One more K&R from another Texan who KNOWS that if were not for
*$#&^$%@#^**! Tom "Bug man" Delay's Effing Re - redistricting we would be well on our way to taking back the Great State of Texas from Auto Craddick's ham fisted republican rule.

In the last days of the legislative session, even the Republicans found Craddick's regime too repressive and were trying to shake it off.
CRY me an Effing River on that count!:sarcasm:

They might have succeeded had it not been for turncoat Dems!:banghead:

Down with Dictator's! Both Craddick and Shrub Jr.!
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:13 PM
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15. And when Texas pollutes it's own drinking waters.
They'll be sure to try and steal it from their fellow States.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:22 PM
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20. Unfortunately many rivers and lakes are already
horribly polluted. I pass by one lake everyday that was polluted by TXU and the Navy. It's called Moutain Creek Lake. No fishing or swimming signs are posted all over the place.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:28 PM
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21. At least Texas isn't the only state where pollution really
isn't addressed. I found this from Florida.

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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 05:36 PM
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22. And the Bush family ran both! Why am I not surprised?
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:32 PM
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27. Great connection!
I surprised I missed that one.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:15 PM
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25. Wyoming: Home of Cheney. Texas: Home of Bush
Any questions?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:37 PM
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28. "Blame coal"? Neh, blame SHRUB for sabotaging regulations & coddling polluter buddies
And blame the media for not vetting Shrub's record as governor. They thought his aw-shucks b.s. "Don't mess with Texas" was oh-so-cute.
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-02-07 06:39 PM
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29. Good point.
I like your headline better!
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:06 AM
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37. smokey joe barton is my congressman-
will you look at all
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/memberprofile.asp?cid=N00005656&cycle=2006&expand=E08

those PAC contributions...
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Maestro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-03-07 11:32 AM
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38. He's mine too and up to his eyeballs
in contributions from Big Oil and the Energy companies. He's scum! :hi:
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