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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 02:57 PM
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Brace yourselves for more pain at the pump
http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/crude-rallies-concerns-over-russia/story.aspx?guid=%7BEF7D9581%2DA4C0%2D4959%2D89FC%2D8A3E92257967%7D

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- Crude-oil futures rallied Monday, boosted by a combination of factors, including an increase in fuel demand, escalating tensions between Russia and the West, and the risk of a cyclone hitting the Persian Gulf.
Crude for July delivery closed up $1.13 at $66.21 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.
"We had a report from the Energy Department measuring total implied fuel demand in the U.S. at an average 20.9 million barrels in the four weeks that ended May 25," said Sean Brodrick, a contributing editor at MoneyandMarkets.com.
"That's up 2.4% from the same period a year earlier, and with refinery capacity so tight, there is no room for error," he said. "Higher fuel demand is pulling everything higher."
Prices were also strengthened by expectations that Cyclone Gonu will hit the Persian Gulf in the next 24 hours. The U.S. Navy has warned coalition military ships in the Gulf to avoid the cyclone, Zawya Dow Jones reported Monday.
"By June 1, we experienced our second name storm of the 2007 hurricane season," Brodrick said. "That is a strong argument for a very busy season indeed, maybe for reasons that aren't factored in the models yet."
"I think traders are starting to price in the potential for a real blow-down season," he said.
Tom Kloza, chief oil analyst at the Oil Price Information Service, said: "There will be talk about the cyclone headed for Oman, as well as the various global tensions that one can grab on any day."
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:06 PM
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1. If only there was an economical practical alternative to gasoline
Oh wait, there is


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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:08 PM
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2. A rat with wings?
oh...you mean the bike.:silly:
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:11 PM
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3. Practical?
You must be a young & physically healthy person living in an urban area. That's the only explanation for why you would think cycling is a practical alternative.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:15 PM
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4. I'm 40 over 50 pounds overweight and live in a smallish Southern city
Maybe my explanation is that I gave it a try and liked it
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:28 PM
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7. Good on you, then
I'm glad you're doing it. But it's still not an option for 90+ percent of Americans, like those with health problems, or who live in rural or outer suburban areas, or with children who need to get places, or who live in areas where the weather is extremely unpredictable, or who have certain clothing & appearance requirements for their job, or any number of things that would make using a bicycle for work, well, impractical.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:51 PM
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11. I refuse to accept your 90+ percent figure
I don't know what the exact figure is but I know that a substantial number of trips currently done in automobiles could be done on a bicycle. One stat I read said that 40 percent of all car trips are less than two miles. Most folks could ride two miles on a bike if they only tried.
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northernsoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:20 PM
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5. well, that's part of the answer
Our whole infrastructure is pretty much based on petroleum right now, reducing its use for personal transport is part of the answer, but it won't stop the overall hurt that an oil shortage will cause.
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taterguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:46 PM
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9. If oil consumption was reduced there wouldn't be a shortage
Well, of course until we run out of it completely. I realize that personal usage isn't the only way oil gets consumed but it's a big chunk of it
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:28 PM
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6. Not until gas costs more than bottle water, will it effect the economy. n/t
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:39 PM
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8. It is. nm
:)
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RC Quake Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:47 PM
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10. Where?
I want to make sure I mark it off my list of places to see before I die.
:o
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:54 PM
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12. Lets do the math.
20 oz of water (In a bottle)...lets say the cheap kind = 50 cents
128 oz of gas (1 gallon) = $3.00

128 oz of water = $3.20 thats for cheap bottled water.
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:57 PM
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13. How about 1.25 per pint for bottle water. n/t
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RL3AO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 03:57 PM
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14. So I guess you dont buy wal-mart water?
:D
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CK_John Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:02 PM
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15. I don't buy any bw, it is the biggest snake oil scam since 1940. n/t
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liberal renegade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:54 PM
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19. I do buy water at Wal-Mart
by the case.

(24 bottles) 1 pint 9 ounces per bottle = 25 oz's

(cost per case $2.99) cost per bottle = 12.5 cents

(cost per gallon) 62.5 cents

Buying water does seem stupid, however our water is not safe to drink. The pesticides that farmers use around here leach into the groundwater. We have a very high rate of cancer in this neck of the woods and imho it's due to the water supply.....

I'm just glad to have the choice and it's cheap.....
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RC Quake Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 05:56 PM
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17. Kirkland Signature - Costco - $1.12 gal.
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Cults4Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 04:14 PM
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16. hehehe... I bought a gallon of Poland Spring for camping this weekend
it was about 2 bucks. Show me where the gas for under two bucks a gallon is at... that would be one to mark off my list as well.

I think what we're looking at here is youre thinking about something like aquafina from a vending machine, I was thinking about straight across comparisons in average per gallon.

Sorry didnt mean to come off snarky, I actually thought you got what you were saying reversed. I see what you mean for a typical 20 oz of water being about 1.25-1.75.

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Sapere aude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-04-07 06:02 PM
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18. The woolly worms have shed their coats a little early this year making prices at the pump higher.
Also, lower viewership of reality show reruns have forced demand up thus increasing prices.

Analysts say that anything they can use as an excuse to raise prices is fair game and that consumers will soon get use to it and not drive less.
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