Tucker just showed a poll of lower income class non-white vs white women....

44 % non white women were for Hillary Clinton and 19% for Barack Obama. They are claiming that poorer women of color are more in favor of Clinton than Obama.

If the poll is reasonably accurate, can anyone explain that to me???

ps, I'm an ol white lady... if this is an honest feeling in poorer women of color, can you explain this to me? No, I don't expect people of color to vote as a block as if they had no independent mind of their own, anymore than I expect any other perceived 'group' to do so, I simply don't understand the great discrepancy.

ps.. it was a quick graph thrown up and I was doing other things at the time, so I didn't see who actually did the poll. Just curious. I think Obama has been as passionate about poverty as anyone, so it was baffling to me.

It's all B.S. I REALLY resent this trying to paint her as the champion of the "common people" even as Warren Buffett throws a fundraiser for her with all his big-money buddies. They're going to force her down our throats coming and going ...

I gladly support her

but I personally feel like everyone in the MSM is trying to get us all to accept her as the presumptive nomine -- like the train is leaving the station and we'd all better get on board. And the election is something like 500 days away! I just get very suspicious when people like Tucker Carlson and Frank Luntz and Tweety and Blitzkrieg and even Faux Noize keep painting it as an impossible task for anyone to catch her. Give the other candidates a chance!

Tucker is a jackass.

make mine for myself without constantly reminding me that choosing someone other than Hillary may be futile.

The poll #s show her ahead so what else can they say?
I don't understand what you are complaining about

Do you remember how everyone in the MSM was saying "It's Dean's to lose!" or "This election is OVER!"

The MSM latches onto a few things.

1. Ability to raise money.
2. Standing in the polls
3. Poling in Iowa & NH

The only reason they haven't seemed to latch onto any Pubs yet it because none of the Pub candidates have really pulled ahead, and there are sooo many undecided's in the Pub Party, it's pretty obvious they're not really happy with any of the current crop.

I Honestly don't think they're trying to push anyone on anybody.

are more salient than those between the races? Women, regardless of race, are believed to more strongly favor peace, child-nurturant policies & humane treatment of the downtrodden than men? Black & white men are equally seen as macho jerks?

Personally, I would favor a generic liberal woman President over a generic male President. I hasten to add that I don't consider Hillary a liberal.

both Clinton and Gore were/are big supporters of their causes. Hillary is a Clinton and so has the benefit of policies that were begun by the Kennedys. She is also supportive of the blacks and of clearly liberal policies. So please stop labeling her as not willing to represent all the people of our country.

I know what Bill Clinton has done. My puzzlement comes from the extreme difference. Perhaps a proven as opposed to a 'promised'?

I'm not a fan of Hillary Clinton, for many reasons, but this is not really not meant to be a hit piece. Just seems strange. The huge difference is what baffles me most. It seems greater than the general population, at least as far as polls go.

was dumped for years into black communities - Poppy Bush's operatives TARGETED black communities all over the country, exploding into the crack epidemic.

When the story finally surfaced in 1996 how was the information treated by the leaders in this country?

I think women of all demographics will go for Hillary. It's much more natural to identify yourself by your sex first, then your race or ethnic background.

Jackpine, you may have something there... all things considered perhaps I would also consider a generic woman more favorably than the generic male, but she is not just some generic female. Still, maybe it does boil down to that?? ... sure beats the hades outta me!

LSparkle --- I am SO with you on that!!

my men of their own race and may identify more with a woman of any color

to champion there causes.

And remember that the job of the MSM and the powers that be is to wind up in November 08 with a horse race that will be too close to call.
This must be so if the election is to be stolen again.
But if they have a democrat candidate they can work with they can relax and have a good time of it.

to realistically elect Obama. Black voters tend to be practical and DO NOT just flock in line to vote for the "Black" candidate (unless that is the most practical candidate), at least in my opinion.

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Alot of strategists have seen this. and actually it was uncertain if obama would get the black vote in his senate run. At the last minute blacks switched and voted overwhelming for Obama.
But, women with less education are the ones for Hillary

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Why lower income class non-white women? Somebody is really reaching to prove a point! Why not non-white vs white, what happen to those middle and up non-white women? This poll sucks!!!

ps,I'm an ol non-white lady...the key to your question is... if this is an honest feeling and my question is, how would we know?

I guess it follows that white women will only vote for Hillary, because she is a women?

I am sick and tired of the presumption...that African Americans, men or women are voting based on sentimentality and not the issues and which candidate can actually win the election!

I admired and voted twice for Bill Clinton, but my vote is not transferable!!!

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Pre-emptively, let me say right off that this is NOT an "Obama isn't black enough" argument.

The issue for many Black Americans is why Obama? The phenomenon of white people embracing him and elevating him above veteran politicians grounded in the historical African-American community is strange to many of us.

Keep in mind that the African American community is probably the furthest left identifiable voting block in the country. To get elected in an African American congressional district, you have to be very progressive. Look at John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Greg Meeks.

It seems that in order to get elected in an African American district, you have to be too liberal to get elected to general office. It's analagous to the problem that Democrats in general have: to get elected in the primary they have to run to the left for their base, which makes it difficult for them to get independents and open minded republicans in the general elections.

Obama is running quite far to the right of most African Americans politicians, particularly on racial issues, such as affirmative action. It is as though he is the only sort of black person that white people can get behind -- one who is not connected to the historic African American community or its political preferences -- which makes us somewhat suspicious of him.

There is no ground swell of support for Obama in the Black community, which is quite striking considering he is the first Black person who is considered a seriuous presidential contender.