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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:29 PM Original message |
Random vehicle searches -- legal and OK or illegal and creepy? |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. Legal and creepy. |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. eek. |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. actually, |
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dogday (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. How does Probable Cause fit in with this scenario |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. Well, the unfortunate fact is that few of us can drive on a public road for any length of time |
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karlrschneider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
38. I was thinking more along the lines of "sobriety checkpoints" |
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azurnoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. How about Legal but creepy? n/t |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
4. creepy and goddamned unamerican. |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. Creepily legal? |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
34. Spot on. |
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greenissexy (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. Annoying, but OK |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Ben Franklin would disagree with you. |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Heh, dupe |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. essential liberty? |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I consider the Fourth Amendment pretty essential. |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
37. What's unreasonable? |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:41 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. Maybe I'm operating under an illusion but I thought cases where |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. IN the airport, go for it. |
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SteelPenguin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #27 |
35. I don't know the specifics |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. *nods* |
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greenissexy (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Ben Franklin didn't have to deal with the NRA or high explosives! |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Ben Franklin had to deal with redcoats and black powder. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
45. Thank you for your opinion of what Ben Franklin would be doing today. |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:31 PM Response to Reply #30 |
46. ... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. PAPERS PLEASE!! |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. *nods* |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. LOL |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:14 PM Original message |
That's a false sense of security you are feeling, there. No one can |
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WindRavenX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. oh wow |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #6 |
44. You're right, if people aren't doing anything wrong, why should they care? |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #6 |
47. "We should always side with whatever any authority figure claims will make us safer". |
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underseasurveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #6 |
49. Trusting government to keep you safer? |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
12. I'm not sure this is legal. |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Hm. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
14. Illegal and creepy... |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
16. Fishing Expeditions |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
17. Somehow, I don't think these searches are as "random" as they claim. |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
18. Not legal on public roadways. |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. They are probably on airport property then |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. Yep, lots of variables. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. The USSC has previously consistantly so ruled - |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. *nods* |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Sure they can. |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
42. Esh. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:53 PM Response to Original message |
28. Legal and creepy as long as it isn't profiling. They have to be equal opportunity creeps. eom |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
29. creepy, unamerican |
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mitchum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
33. Cayenne pepper sprinkled in your floorboards will nullify the "detective skills"... |
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Jed Dilligan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
36. Subtract racism and the war on drugs, |
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TX-RAT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
41. Is this all on Airport property? |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Yeah, all on their property, |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
50. It's an Invasion of Privacy Rights |
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RC Quake (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-06-07 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
51. It's been legal for a very long time. |
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