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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:52 AM Original message |
WTF story - girl gets raped - 'This is her fault.', witnesses save her, DA not pressing charges |
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Sanctified (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
1. Any Chance this is going to be the Aftermath of the Duke case? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yeah, like DAs were so diligent about prosecuting cases before Nifong |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:51 AM Response to Reply #2 |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:34 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. LOL! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:49 AM Response to Reply #8 |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #2 |
38. Blonde. You forgot "blonde" virgin on her way home from Bible school. |
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HardRocker05 (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
123. correct. it's no wonder women don't report rapes. i'd take the law into my own hands if something li |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:56 PM Response to Reply #123 |
145. Here in Providence a Brown University student got away with raping a local girl....... |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #145 |
150. Do you have a link to that story cause it sounds like an urban |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #150 |
169. I will say that i saw the rapist pick up the bag of weed. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
131. Defense attorney for alleged rapists donated to DA's campaign |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:35 PM Response to Reply #131 |
140. Yet another reason that judges and prosecutors should NOT be elected positions |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:30 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. That's a legitimate fear, MiltonF |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:44 AM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Its not just the Duke case, its every case where rape or discrimination is falsely charged |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
43. I haven't been keeping up with every detail of the Duke case and don't want to open a can of worms |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:25 AM Response to Reply #43 |
52. One of the indicted was demostrably not there |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:33 AM Response to Reply #52 |
58. Hmm. The one who wasn't there: how did his name get brought into it? |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:55 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Per the media... |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #63 |
157. SO it is possible that condoms could have been used. Hmmm.. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 01:57 AM Response to Reply #157 |
162. No, the tests that were done would have shown condom residue, if |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:05 AM Response to Reply #162 |
166. Ok, no evidence of condoms. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:06 AM Response to Reply #58 |
67. Two of them actually had alibis that put them away from |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #67 |
160. I only care about the evidence, not the innuendo |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 01:55 AM Response to Reply #160 |
161. What does innuendo have to do with it? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #161 |
164. Did you read the actual post? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #164 |
168. I agree that Nifong has made things worse for future rape victims. |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
33. In other words, back to the status quo |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
126. SSDD |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #1 |
78. Any DA who operates that way as a result of the Duke case |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. I don't think you can fire an elected official because she won't |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. If she's doing it for political reasons, she should be |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #87 |
93. The vomit was tested and it did not come from the girl. |
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Scout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:27 PM Response to Reply #93 |
105. "vomit was tested and it did not come from the girl" |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. Watch some slick defense attorney spin that |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:00 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. Apparantly some DUer is saying that- several times in this thread |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 02:01 AM Response to Reply #105 |
163. self-delete |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
3. Was just reading this about the Duke rapists today. I had no idea how bad it was. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
28. I've just begun ignoring them also |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
12. The citation you use has a fairly unique view of the case |
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Mike Daniels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:48 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. deleted |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #3 |
29. Have you been under a rock? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
85. Yep, Nifong was disbarred. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
113. Sorry |
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brentspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #113 |
117. Uh, yeah |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. What a crock of shit. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:24 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. Read up on it |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:02 PM Response to Reply #124 |
133. I have read up on it........ |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 01:03 AM Response to Reply #113 |
171. You are really obsessed with your delusion that... |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
70. You had no idea because that essay is a piece of garbage. |
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demgurl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
100. I beg you to read up on the current facts of the case.... |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
141. Um, wow |
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DKRC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. The Santa Clara County DA's site is a bad joke in view of this decision |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. The AG Jerry Brown is looking into the matter |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:40 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Thanks for the link |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. Oh good |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:02 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Yeah, it sure sounds like this 17-year-old was not a "sex worker" (sheesh, how I hate that term) |
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militaryspouse (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:29 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. ,, |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:31 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I'm with you there |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #13 |
32. I do |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
36. I can't get my mind around that either. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #13 |
42. This particular groups sounds like a bunch of assholes |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 11:05 AM Response to Reply #13 |
79. not men... monsters. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #79 |
103. Exactly! |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:21 PM Response to Reply #13 |
158. And WHY would they all want to have sex with the same woman. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Good post n/t |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
69. What you said. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
119. Why is being a "sex worker" relevant? |
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shance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:53 PM Response to Reply #119 |
132. Exactly. Does that mean that because these people ask for services they can abuse that person? |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #119 |
159. She just doesn't like that terminology. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
115. Except that they already passed on it |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. No they haven't already passed on it. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Yes, they have |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:11 PM Response to Reply #122 |
147. Who are they? The person taking another look at the case is |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:56 AM Response to Original message |
20. There has to be more than this to the story |
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militaryspouse (198 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. ... |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:33 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. No argument from me |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #24 |
109. fuck the duke case. this needs prosecution. this is fucked. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #20 |
62. I'll bet they are stepping more lightly due to the Duke case |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #62 |
64. Me too. Based on the part of the article about the St Christopher medals, it seems |
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Solo_in_MD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I really don't think so, the cirucmstances are quite different |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:11 AM Response to Reply #20 |
68. She's Probably Terrified to Be Nifonged |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. That OC case is just awful but get a load of this one: |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #20 |
153. More info: victim wanted to proceed with prosecution. |
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JoDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:19 AM Response to Original message |
21. The victim is a minor |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:51 AM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Yes those 3 young ladies deserve a medal |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:02 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Absolutely. Those women are heroes. |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #30 |
45. If she was drunk, it CANNOT be consensual by definition |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:26 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. I'm not on the DA's side |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #53 |
80. The DA says vomit did not come from the girl. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Do you have a link to that? |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #80 |
92. Oh okay, well that would make it completely different |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. The case is being reviewed by the AG. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #80 |
125. So? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:15 PM Response to Reply #125 |
149. So nothing. I am not implying anything, but correcting |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
152. I don't know; I thought she was a minor |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:31 AM Response to Original message |
23. Did they collect DNA evidence, pubic hairs or semen? Any cuts or bruises? |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:45 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. not true actually |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #26 |
37. The problem there is not that there was sex, but the particular guys who did it. |
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lukasahero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #37 |
48. I guess we agree but are coming from it from slightly different perspectives |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #37 |
61. Slimeball attorney is right. |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:40 AM Response to Reply #26 |
71. The law is that you have to be conscious to give consent. Plus, she was 17. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:55 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. nope, it takes more than DNA, if this gal was semi concious the team members |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. If she was drunk and semiconscious she cannot give consent. (eom) |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:43 AM Response to Reply #40 |
72. yep - and sex without consent is rape. eom |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
107. II am aware of the law, but if she blacked out , then they can CLAIM SHE CONSENTED and if she |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. and that's why DNA evidence is needed |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:07 PM Response to Reply #116 |
134. unfortunately, credible witness testimony is needed- this is why all rapes are so hard to |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:22 PM Response to Reply #134 |
136. More evidence |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:34 PM Response to Reply #136 |
139. but we both know they will say she begged for it, right? if there is no one to describe how |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:43 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. I see your point |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #143 |
148. juries are told that doubt can't enter into it at all- this is why the more common crime of |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:09 PM Response to Reply #139 |
146. She probably couldn't struggle. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:24 PM Response to Reply #146 |
151. oh i know, she couldn't even stand up |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
25. It doesn't say if the victim wanted to press charges |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:08 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. It's not a problem of her changing her mind or not changing her |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:11 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Ahhhh, well she might remember |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Sounds like date rape drug |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Eggactly, I hope the hospital drew some kind of blood from her... |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Her friends brought her to the hospital, yes? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:21 AM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Indeed, these braves young ladies, who ought to receive some type of medal or something... |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I forgot, they usually ask the victim to give urine... |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #49 |
51. How long do those things stay in the system? 24 hours? |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:26 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I don't think that would matter here as the victim was taken immediately to the hospital... |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Well, let's hope. NT |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Here's hoping. And congrats to the girls for their presence of mind |
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originalpckelly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:27 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. It's pretty damn pathetic we even have to worry about our government... |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #55 |
57. Just looking at the current administration makes me more cynical than I ever thought I could be |
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High Plains (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
86. Alcohol is by far the most widely used date rape drug. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
127. How is that a problem? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:34 AM Response to Reply #25 |
59. She may still be quite traumatized. And if she was drugged and doesn't remember, |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:31 PM Response to Reply #59 |
138. Indeed |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
60. Deleted sub-thread |
w4rma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:01 AM Response to Original message |
66. Yup. This type of thing happens at some of these jock-hosted parties. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #66 |
128. They're also terribly humiliated |
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ourbluenation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
73. Here's our two heroes. Athletes, I might add. Sports can be very empowering for girls and women. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #73 |
76. good point! |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #73 |
97. One of them made a very profound and sad statement in the article |
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FloridaJudy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
102. Terrific picture! |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
74. the Santa Clara County Sheriff's Department has stated it is not closing the case. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #74 |
81. They can investigate the case but they can't prosecute it. |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Do you have a link to the DA statements? |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #82 |
89. Wiki Has Some of It |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #89 |
129. Yep, DA afraid of Duke case |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #129 |
154. Are rape victims going to have to go back in the closet? |
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wicket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
75. I'm going to be sick |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
88. God! |
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ceile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
90. Unbelievable! |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
91. If I get me a great big truck and force drunk drivers into ditches is it OK |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #91 |
96. I personally feel I should be able to rob any man who gets drunk around me now |
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NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
94. Jesus F-in Christ ... The DA is a Concern Troll! |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. The AG is looking into this and I hope he MAKES her prosecute it. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. It is my understanding that AG doesn't have to make her to |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Then fine, whoever. nt |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
98. Which one will have the guts to turn themselves in? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #98 |
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Beaverhausen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
106. Another woman has come forward also claiming to be raped at this house |
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roguevalley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
108. good thing I didn't find this. I would have left ten dead bodies behind |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
112. It's all about the evidence. And witnesses don't hold much water. |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #112 |
130. Many rapes go unprosecuted because a lot of women are scared... |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #130 |
155. This is exactly what I am afraid of. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #112 |
156. Xithras, in this case there should be evidence from the hospital |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
121. just when that whole duke thing was about to die on DU |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:21 PM Response to Original message |
135. I hope the AG pushes forward with this case |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:45 PM Response to Reply #135 |
144. This case has been through a grand jury already. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:28 PM Response to Original message |
137. Deleted sub-thread |
JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-20-07 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
142. Hopefully the police will be able to investigate enough to turn up evidence for a strong case |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
165. This may be just me, but whenever I hear of a case like this.... |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-21-07 10:07 AM Response to Original message |
167. So where are all the people waiting to call her a liar and say it IS her fault? I know you're here.. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-22-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #167 |
170. Damn, I hope not |
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