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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:38 AM
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Poll question: Which is most important to you?
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 07:40 AM by Bleachers7
Be honest
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peacebird Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:38 AM
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1. that which is good for America, and good for the world.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:40 AM
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2. Good point
:thumbsup:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:42 AM
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4. Yes
people before profits and political parties
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:58 AM
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10. Si! Da! Oui! Taip! Jah! Yeah! Hai! Tak! uh huh!
as you said.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 02:24 PM
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21. People before property. People before party. Rights before entitlements. Justice. Equity.
Privilege should NEVER exceed responsibility. Just due process must precede any disenfranchisement. Justice and equity must follow the model of two children, a candy bar, and a knife. One child cuts the candy bar; the other child gets to choose which piece. This is the most familiar example of Rawls' "Veil of Ignorance" - a system in which one would accept any position for one's self.
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BobRossi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:42 AM
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3. Were are all the "Democrat or Die" types?
Throw out the possibility of voting for a third party candidate or question the sanity of hoping Gore will run and it is readily apparent that it is party before country around DU.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:48 AM
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7. Party is country now
We don't have the Democrats in control, then we are owned 100% by the neocons. We're in a
very primitive situation now. We only have two choices.
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:46 AM
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16. Agreed. The Democratic Party is really the only alternative for
getting this country out of its political, international, environmental and economic morass. The first step must be ending this disastrous war, and the neocons are certainly not going to do it. I'm waiting (and waiting and waiting) for the Democratic Congress to do it.
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 02:16 PM
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20. exactly
To quote the great Ms Huffington, you don't remodel the house when it's on fire. We have to go with
our strongest, reasonably sane alternative.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 02:33 PM
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23. How does it help the country to vote for a 3rd party
if that just helps elect Republicans?
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:44 AM
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5. Which is not to say that I don't vote for democrats that I don't agree with . . .
Because while there may be individual races where the 'Lican candidate is more appealing (c'mon -- it COULD happen), the Republican Party in the aggregate, as an enabler of Bushism, can't be trusted with power, period. So while in the past I voted candidate-by-candidate, for the last few cycles (and presumably for the next few cycles, too) I vote a pretty straight ticket.

So, while I wish post-2006 Congressional Dems had spit in Bush's eye and generally showed more backbone (and smarts, for that matter), I'll still vote for them until the current plague of 'Lican pests is pushed out of public life.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:48 AM
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6. They are one in the same
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 07:49 AM by Marrah_G
And it isn't a cop out at all. I "THOUGHT" the entire reason we fight for the democratic party is because they ARE what is good for America.

If you do not believe the Democratic Party is good for America, why even be here?

When I stop believing they are what is good for America I would definitely side with what is good for the country.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:51 AM
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8. You've never disagreed with the party
Because in those cases you probably believe in "what's right." It's very easy to disagree with the party at times.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:04 AM
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12. I'm not saying I've never disagreed with anything they've done
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 08:16 AM by Marrah_G
If you are talking about individual incidents then I would answer that America is more important. I read the poll as being a general over all question and therefore stand by my answer. The Dems are not perfect, no one is, but I believe they are good for America, if I did not think so, I would not be here.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:15 AM
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13. I agree with you completely.
:thumbsup:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 07:55 AM
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9. Other.
I do not think that it is in any way a "cop out" to say that what is good for the democratic party is good for the country.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 02:30 PM
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22. What's 'good' for the party may not resemble what the 'leadership' alleges is 'good.'
Life is not a zero-sum game.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:03 AM
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11. That which is good for the planet, including the U.S.. n/t
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:20 AM
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14. The Metric System
Why doesn't anyone else care about our ongoing deliberate refusal to adopt the Metric System?
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 08:22 AM
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15. That which is good for the world.
That which is good for the world.

In the final analysis, I couldn't give a fig for
the Democratic Party or America except in how
they can be used as tools to advance the global
good.

Tesha
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:34 AM
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17. That which is good for the whole world
Edited on Thu Jun-21-07 10:36 AM by LeftishBrit
(of course, I'm not American or a Democrat, so it's easier for me to say that!)

At the moment, it is clearly better for the world if the Americans have Democrats rather than Republicans in power.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:39 AM
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18. Not being a "patriot", what's good for the world.
“Freedom for supporters of the government only?, for members of one party only ? no matter how big its membership may be is no freedom at all. Freedom is always freedom for the man who thinks differently. “ Rosa Luxemburg
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-21-07 10:47 AM
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19. In The Context Of Elections, What's Good For America Is Voting For The Democratic Candidate; Period.
No if and's or but's about it.
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