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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:42 PM
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If Edwards came out in favor of impeachment
for Bush and Cheney, would that vault him past Obama? Maybe into a close second place?

I have no idea what his position is on impeachment, but if he could accept the idea, this would be the ideal time for him to make the statement.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:43 PM
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1. Part of me hates to admit it, but it would flip me after the statement Obama put out today. n/t
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yy4me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 01:28 PM
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10. If Edwards stated that he supports impeachment and does so
having given his interpretation of just cause, I will support him.

I believe he would have to call a press conference and give the best legal argument of his life. We need someone now with enough courage to confront the evil that is this administration.


He would also need all of us and every like minded American to stand with him.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:45 PM
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2. It should.
Part of the problem is that I don't think the general populous sees the Bush administration as one that is engaging in both illegal (both US and Internationally!) and unconstitutional acts--and acting like it's no big deal. They operate in a climate of fear and unreason.

If the public had a better grasp of just how bad this administration is, impeachment wouldn't be talked about, it would be acted upon, imo.


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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:45 PM
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3. Edwards will do what he thinks is right. If he starts pandering
to us and doing things just to get our support, he will lose his advantage which is that he is not vulnerable to attacks that he is manipulative and opportunistic. He is not those things. If he really believes impeachment is wise, let him say so. If he doesn't we should not pressure him about it no matter how much we support impeachment. He should not say or do something just to gain support. It will backfire.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 01:07 PM
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5. No argument there
That's why I qualified my post a bit. His honesty and his passion are a big part of his appeal.

I don't know what his stand is on impeachment, but if he is comfortable with the idea, then I hope he'll speak out, and quickly.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 12:46 PM
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4. yes n/t
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 01:19 PM
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6. Yes, I would consider Edwards if he took a stand for impeachement.
As far as I'm concerned, Obama just gave me, a constiuent from Illinois, a "fuck you" of the hugest kind with his statement today. Oh, well, Obama, you better hope I'm able to vote for you when I'm living on the streets when the Illinois primary comes round. Oh? Living on the streets not *grave* enough for you?? Oh, but if I'm in my grave I won't be able to vote at all. Will THAT be *grave* enough for you???

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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 01:20 PM
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7. It would certainly pique my interest...
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 01:20 PM
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8. It would vault him past Obama
here on DU, but probably wouldn't have any measurable effect in the real world.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:11 PM
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14. I think it would have a huge impact
First, because (the impression I get) the public wants a public figure to call for impeachment.

Second, because the pundits would be talking about it for a long time. Most would be attacking him viciously, but that wouldn't matter. His name and the issue itself would be the number-one topic for quite a while.
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LSK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 01:24 PM
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9. he should go for it
He seems to be basing his campaign on what the right thing to do is and damning the consequences.

He admitted his Healthcare plans would need taxes raised.

He said send the timetables back again and again.

He announced in NOLA.

Ive even seen him on CSPAN support medical marijuana.

He should embrace Impeachment because he doesnt seem to be trying to dance around issues around this campaign.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 01:35 PM
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13. what he should do
is reiterate the concern over lack of cooperation with oversight, say there are serious questions being raised about possible violations, and that it should be considered as a possibility if the facts warrant it.

In other words, say "it's not off the table to me, but i am not screaming for it without due diligence"

It should ALWAYS be "on the table" just as a life sentence is on the table for me if I commit and am convicted of a bad enough crime.

Thhe debate should not be over whether it is "on the table" but, rather over what "probable cause" to react to and what not to.
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 01:30 PM
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11. Obama's rejection of impeachment shouldn't make a difference.
Edited on Thu Jun-28-07 01:31 PM by LWolf
There is a candidate that not only supports impeachment, he's already introduced articles of impeachment. :shrug:

What I don't understand is this: if support for impeachment is a crucial issue to base choice of candidate on, why would anybody be supporting Obama or Edwards, or Clinton for that matter, anyway?

Universal single-payer health care? Same question.

Exit from Iraq and the end of all corporate wars? Same question.

If those are the crucial issues, then Democrats should be behind the candidate who is strongest, most consistent, most active on those issues.

If they are not, I'd suggest that those issues don't really rank all that high with Democratic voters.

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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 01:31 PM
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12. i think obama fucked up saying what he said. if edwards
was in favor of impeachment--it would help him with the LIBERAL voters
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BonnieJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 02:31 PM
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15. It would for me.
Whenever I hear one of the dem candidates say they don't favor impeachment for this criminal admin, I cross them off the list. Obama was crossed off today.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-28-07 03:22 PM
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16. It makes me really wonder what Obama thinks real crimes might be
if he under the delusion that Bush/Cheney have not yet committed "high" crimes. I was exceedingly disappointed in his answer.
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