Extremely smart guy bill kristol explains why we should all feel happy.

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1640412,00.html



Today we're moody again. We are obviously fighting a difficult and, until recently, badly managed war in Iraq, whose outcome is uncertain. This accounts for much of the pessimism. It also doesn't help that the political system seems incapable of dealing with big problems like immigration, an energy policy and health care. Still, is the general feeling that everything is going to the dogs any more justified today than it was 15 years ago?

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Not really. Think of it this way: Have events in general gone better or worse than most people would have predicted on Sept. 12, 2001? There's been no successful second attack here in the U.S.--and very limited terrorist successes in Europe or even in the Middle East.

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As for American foreign policy since 9/11, it has not produced the results some of us hoped for, and there are many legitimate criticisms of the Bush Administration's performance. But, in fact, despite the gloom and doom from critics left and right (including, occasionally, me), the world seems to present the usual mixed bag of difficult problems and heartening developments.

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Why are we subject to periodic bouts of distemper? Is it a deep problem with modern democracy? Is it an even deeper problem with human nature? Or do we just have a tendency to get sick of Presidents named Bush? We don't know. The fact is that George W. Bush can probably do little to change the national mood--or the national judgment of him--over the next 18 months. For our part, however, we can hope that future historians look back on our adolescent moodiness of 2007 with as much puzzlement as some college students showed recently when I tried to explain to them just how it was that Perot got all those votes 15 years ago.


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"We are obviously fighting a difficult war", "WE" bill?...WE? Thanks a lot little billy, all we really needed was to hear an encouraging word from your gigantic brain and mouth to calmly reassure us in today's upsetting world that YOU FUCKING CREATED you heartless reptilian mass murdering mother fucker.

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Could not agree more.

Whenever he's on cspan someone will ask him why he doesn't pick up a rifle and head for the front lines and he invariably uses big words and withering sneers to dodge the question.

Gotta hand it to a guy who's always wrong but keeps on slugging away with clever predictions.

I heard him do that on a CSPAN call-in with Daniel Ellsberg. Got visibly nervous and mumbled that he was too young to go to Nam. He was born in 1952. He'll act nowadays like it doesn't bother him, but the chickenhawk charge stings.

he was not too young to serve in Nam.

He's just another Chickenshit neocon.

more important things to do, a boil on one's butt.

It never comes down to reality...they were and are cowards, it's as simple as that, and there is no way around it.

I knew men who covered up what might have been problems so they could serve....these guys made things up so the couldn't. It makes me sick.

that's how you can tell the difference between conservatives who are actual Republicans and neocons. The neos use syllables to obfuscate their bs. Neolibs seem to do that, too.

promotes Likud/Neocon/Zionist/AIPAC type fascism that Bush-Cheney follow LIKE PUPPETS TO THE LETTER!! Look out Iran!!!

Who is stupid enough to listen to him?

Of all the PNAC writers and signers, he's the most repulsive.

Murdoch was the money-losing American Standard's sugar daddy and pays Kristol's check through Fox News.

Colbert absolutely throttled him about the ridiculous failure of PNAC and the Iraq war and then handed it over to Kristol by asking, "How's that New American Century goin' for ya?"

Kristol stuttered and stammered and could only reply, "I...I...I'm speechless."

Colbert showed no mercy and embarrassed him until the segment was up. Awesome

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"There's been no successful second attack here in the U.S.--and very limited terrorist successes in Europe or even in the Middle East."

Really??? Cool! I then declare the so-called war on terror over! Everybody home, nuttin left to fight. The bogey man is contained yay!

It's all over the news, just like him.

Just like the rest of the chickenhawks. I get so sick and tired of that shit "There hasn't been another attack on U.S. soil since 9/11." These fools NEVER give credit to Bill Clinton for there not being another attack on U.S. soil from 1993 until 2001. ;(

What an interesting question to ask... Let's see... The events of September 11th, 2001 proved to be the deadliest single acts of terrorism on US soil. Yes, on September 12th, 2001 things were looking pretty bleak, and I'll admit that the following month or two had me worried and a little paranoid.

Now, however, it's almost 6 years later. We're slowly bleeding our armed forces dry. Sure, we don't get the monumental loss of nearly 3000 people in one day like we did on September 11th, 2001. Instead, we're just seeing a slow trickle that has grown to over 3600 American soldiers since March 20, 2003 - in Iraq alone!

So, let's see if we can crunch the numbers a little bit here. On September 11th, 2001, 2974 Americans were murdered by the terrorists - a STUNNING 2974 deaths-per-day average! Since March 20, 2003 (1571 days ago), there have been at least 3601 deaths of American soldiers in Iraq, translating to a paltry 2.29 deaths-per-day. Yes, things were certainly MUCH worse back on September 12th, 2001 than they are now.

Of course, that's not factoring in the potential 73,120 civilian Iraqis that have been killed, plus the 286 coalition soldiers killed, plus the deaths of at least 933 foreign contractors trying to rebuild iraq as it crumbles to the ground, PLUS the 557 coalition soldiers killed in Afghanistan since 2001, PLUS perhaps 3700 Afghani civilians killed as a result of the initial bombings and other assorted causes.

So if we add those deaths to the 3601 American soldiers killed in Iraq, we get at least 82,197 dead, which translates to roughly... Let's see... 39.01 deaths a day for nearly six years (2107 days, to be exact - I started the count at October 1st, 2001 because let's face it, we didn't do much in terms of fighting until October!). Still, that's almost nothing compared to the one-day total of September 11th, 2001.

So, I suppose old Billy Boy is right. On average, the days since September 11th, 2001 have been filled with much LESS death than the day of September 11th, 2001 was. 39.01 deaths is almost palatable compared to 2974 deaths! Why, I feel better already! What was the cost of it all? Why just a handful of American lives, our security, our peace of mind, and our faith in the government! Thanks, Bill!



Bill Kristol - huge fucking moron and even bigger asshole.

I guess I'm just so bad at math that I didn't quite understand what mr. kristol was bloviating.

I should really strive to be happier like billy, instead of worrying about all the messy details.

I majored in English Literature. Math is like an alien language to me.

The numbers make me sick just looking at them. of course, there's a new estimate out saying it's possible that up to ONE MILLION Iraqis have died since the invasion of 2003. I think that number is a little too high, but my God... if one MILLION is even the HIGH end for estimation, the low end it almost too terrible to imagine.

And billy kristol would tell us why we should just be happy with the war, even though we're a wee bit perturbed at bush.

*cue Justin banging his head on the desk in frustration, cursing toward the heavens, punching the wall, then falling asleep to do it all over again the next day*

This is supposed to be an 'APPY occasion...

Lookit him taking solace in imagined vindication from future historians. Like his little buddy Dubya. He knows he's fucked up hugely, royally, caused the calamity of a generation, but he'll never admit it to himself. Never.

Dan Quayle's brain trust. Explains a lot.

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Have you ever noticed when he's interviewed NO ONE mentions Billy Meth Kristol ties to PNAC?!?

Although Stephen Colbert brought it up when Lil Billy was on his show. Lil Billy didn't seem to appreciate Colbert's sense of humor. You could tell he was VERY uncomfortable and seem really off guard. Only Stephen has the BALLS to question him about his ties to PNAC. Crooks and Liars used to have the video, however, it's no longer available. :=(

Link to my video:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x38996

Love it.

I think I caught part of the Colbert/kristol thing and bill was way off his usual cool and failing to be funny. Colbert is God.

as one of the cosigners, he is one of the REASONS we are where we are today!!! oily little bastard.

face of Bill Kristol staring back at you you'd be happy too

To be able to deny reality and just bounce along inside your little delusional bubble world.

The problem is, bubbles don't last for very long but reality does.

I've not quite had my fill of supercilious condescension from the sanctimonious and self-righteous today.

"You aren't losing your rights; your elected representatives don't have a socialized medical program while denying you one. Your elected representatives aren't allowing your Constitution to be ripped to shreds.

Your wages aren't stagnant. Your air and food are clean.

We aren't at war and that war hasn't cost a million lives and enough money to fund social programs for generations.

You aren't facing thousands of returning military plagued with injuries and PTSD.

Just relax. This won't hurt a bit....I promise......"

ORLY?

http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=anthrax+attacks&btnG=Google+Search

That's right, Mr. PNAC, that won't happen again until the insiders who staged the first one decide the time is right.

Our third carrier strike force is now on it's way to the Persian Gulf while CNN's recently been in hyper-drive playing the TERROR TERROR TERROR card -- me thinks that second attack might be coming right up. Sure hope I'm wrong, we'll see.

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bloodbank. What are the chances that that blathering fool could lose his trust fund and actually have to work for a living?

Where is that terrorist? Where is Osama? Where are the chocolate bars, rose petals, and WMD in Baghdad?

off his face--preferably with a bigger fist than mine.

Hey, Billy--get a REAL job, you trust fund nitwit.

Ick. :puke:

The same state it has been in for at least 30 years.

What a moran and a tool. He's blaming us for not being happy? What? It's not a usual mixed bag of difficutlies. We don't have troops abroad getting killed all the time. And we're supposed to be so happy about no terrorist attacks, in spite of more interference in other countries' affairs than "usual?" Thus increasing the chances of terrorist attacks, which are rare anyway.

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:)

...but don't let him leave the bar until he sobers up, because you'll be held responsible if he commits vehicular homicide.