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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:52 PM
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An interesting poll over on CNN: Should scientists try to
clone a mammoth if DNA is obtained from remains found in Siberia?

Yes 60% 16796
No 40% 11339
Total Votes: 28135

That's interesting to me because it shows that Americans may put more importance into scientific research and discovery than they do in religious doctrines.

Please, cast your vote.
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:53 PM
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1. Hell yeah, they should!
Then they should miniaturize 'em, so I can have a pet mammoth.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:54 PM
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mmmm... Mammoth...
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:58 PM
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7. ROFLMAO!!! ( I think that is the first time I've use a rofl on DU! )
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:01 PM
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10. It *is* a good pic :)
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:54 PM
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2. absolutely, but the genetic material is no longer alive so the best they will be able to do
...is splice some traits of mammoth into living genes, I would think
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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:54 PM
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3. correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't they still need a live mamoth egg to put the dna in?
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 04:55 PM by jsamuel
and that dna would also need to be "alive" as well
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:55 PM
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6. Presumably, they could use an elephant's.
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:00 PM
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9. or maybe a snuffleufagus...
sorry, my spelling skills were taught before Sesame street.

dp
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:54 PM
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4. Not terribly surprising to me.
I think 40% is an unfortunately large number of people telling scientists what they shouldn't do.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:55 PM
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5. Too bad there won't be any arctic environments for him to live in
How about figuring out how we're going to clone all the honeybees that are dying, you know the little critters that pollinate our plants? Now if they can teach the mammoth how to keep our ecosystem alive I'm all for it.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 04:59 PM
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8. Hell Yes! Farm them bad boys, create a new mega-burger chain
The mind boggles at the possibilities.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:01 PM
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11. McMammath Burgers - So huge you can't get your mouth around them!
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:04 PM
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13. Triple Mammothburger with cheese please!
as we get fatter and fatter as a society.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:07 PM
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I want to see Moas cloned.


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:03 PM
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12. It'd be a perfect mascot for the increasingly right-wing GOP.
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 05:04 PM by TahitiNut
:shrug: ... or a paleo-conservative thrid party.
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:07 PM
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14. Hate the idea

What? Do we need more animals to lock behind cages? Are the canned-hunters getting bored with African “Big 5”?

Bringing back the mammoth would lead to only one thing: its exploitation.

Whether the receding glaciers, humans, or a combination of the two (likely) is what caused the mammoths decimation, I am not in favor of bringing it back to a world that would be even MORE inhospitable and contemptuous of it.

Don’t get me wrong, I love animals and the natural world. I am a 30s-something man with two kids who is making a career change so that I can study endangered animals (focused on genetic variation). So protecting and caring for animals is as much a part of me as breathing oxygen.

However, we have enough animals with humanity’s foot on their necks without adding more to the list.

Count me out.
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WindRavenX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:11 PM
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15. That would be awesome. And...
...if successful, the technologies involved would probably benefit a lot of medical research...
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:15 PM
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16. Why?
Why would we we WANT to bring back a mammoth? It's large - using up more of the Earth's resources. We already have elephants.

Look, I'm all for scientific discovery, but as was stated above, I'd rather we use this technology to bring back honey bees or aid in earth's recovery and survival.

What would a mammoth do to help us (besides idle curiosity)?
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kwolf68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:19 PM
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17. Bring em back and then kill em off again...
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 05:20 PM by kwolf68
Only something as fucked up as humanity could actually devise a way to make something go extinct TWICE.

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JitterbugPerfume Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:21 PM
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18. pseudo science
it is a stupid poll
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:23 PM
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19. What do "religious doctrines" have to do with the question?
I'm missing the connection.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:34 PM
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20. I simply meant that more people (according to the
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 05:35 PM by Texas Explorer
results of that particular poll so far) favor the pursuit of science than oppose it on religious grounds, as in humans playing God, etc. Since I do not believe in supernatural beings, the idea that a majority believes in the pursuit of science, which could keep me alive longer, is comforting to me. Of course, you don't have to agree. :)
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:39 PM
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21. It's not that I disagree.
I think, however, that you might be ignoring a host of completely secular reasons why someone might vote no by assuming that the "no" votes are based on religious doctrines.

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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 05:54 PM
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22. I would vote no.
I would vote no. Not because I think science is anathema to my faith (quite the contrary-- they appear to edify each other), but simply because I don't trust human beings to do something simply because we can. I'd like to see bio-ethicists, and the leading brains of the relevant disciplines to first discuss it. Then discuss it more. Then, when consensus is reached, discuss it even further.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-11-07 06:34 PM
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23. That is the first thing I thought of "oh she is a female..that means she
Edited on Wed Jul-11-07 06:34 PM by applegrove
has eggs ready and frozen to be used in some horrible experiment". I hope they study the poor thing and then not bring a sister back to life. What a poor little victim that clone would be facing all of today's viruses and such. 100,000 years is too long.
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