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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 05:56 PM
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Firefighters: Giuliani Ditched 9/11 Body Recovery 24 Hrs. After Securing $230 Million In Buried Gold
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/12/giuliani-firefighters-gold/

Firefighters: Giuliani Ditched 9/11 Body Recovery 24 Hours After Securing $230 Million In Buried Gold

Former New York mayor Rudy Giuliani has regularly touted his leadership in the wake of 9/11 as one of his major selling points. A host of 9/11 responders have alleged, however, that Giuliani provided them with poor radios, misled them into working amidst toxic fumes, and most recently, hastily cleared out the rubble before bodies were all recovered.

Six weeks after 9/11, Giuliani abandoned efforts to recover remaining bodies and buckled to pressure from developers eager to “scoop” the rubble:

The fact is that the Mayor’s switch to a scoop-and-dump coincided with the removal of tens of millions of dollars of gold, silver and other assets of the Bank of Nova Scotia that were buried beneath what was once the towers. Once the money was out, Giuliani sided with the developers that opposed a lengthy recovery effort, and ordered the scoop-and-dump operation so they could proceed with redevelopment.

Yesterday, Harold Schaitberger of the International Association of Firefighters (IAFF) — the nation’s largest firefighters organization, consisting of 280,000 members — assailed Giuliani, detailing how the mayor ditched body-recovery efforts only 24 hours after recovering the $230 million in gold. “He found the gold on October 31, and on November 1 is when he issued the order to remove the firefighters from their recovery mode.” Watch it at link~

The IAFF has produced a video entitled “Rudy Giuliani: Urban Legend,” extensively documenting Giuliani’s negligence after 9/11, featuring “active and retired fire fighters, fire officers and families of the fallen speaking out about the ‘Real Rudy,’ his failed leadership and his disrespect for the recovery of those we lost.”

Already, the video has been attacked by the right wing as another form of “Swift Boating.” But as the Carpetbagger noted, “The comparison is ridiculous. The Swiftboat attackers were lying; the International Association of Fire Fighters aren’t.”

(HT: Crooks and Liars)
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:00 PM
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1. WOW!
Edited on Thu Jul-12-07 06:29 PM by trashcanistanista
That is one big-ass ANTI-swift boat the FDNY has got going. Kudos to them! Hope it works!

edited for correct terminology.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:01 PM
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2. Is it still a 'swift-boat' if it's true? nt
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:04 PM
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3. swift boat is the wrong anaology...
swift boating was based on lies...
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:24 PM
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5. Yes, you guys are correct.
If it's true it's not really swiftboating. What is the term for it if it's true?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:28 PM
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9. "Reporting".
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:30 PM
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10. LOL
but in this case, yes.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:30 PM
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20. ANTI-swift boat
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:26 PM
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6. Whoa!
HE DID WHAT?

Crap. I live here and I missed that? How come I didn't know?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:27 PM
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7. LOLOLOL! Holy mendacity, Batman!
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Catch22Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:24 PM
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4. Hmm, how quick the pukes are to use the term "swiftboating"
When in 04, they would have told you no such tactic existed. I love the response though, "The comparison is ridiculous. The Swiftboat attackers were lying; the International Association of Fire Fighters aren’t.”
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:28 PM
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8. Go on, fellas. Call them liars. Go ahead.
I'm pretty sure they'll still risk their lives to save your kids, but are you?
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trashcanistanista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:37 PM
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12. I believe the FDNY over Ghoulie any day.
So will everyone else. He is finished. This is what it takes to put him down, permanently.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:34 PM
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11. Why was it Giuliani's decision to abandon the search?
Why wasn't it the FBI's decision?

It was, after all, a national crime scene.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:43 PM
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13. Great question; maybe because it was an unprecedented event and
he bullied his way into being the east coast 'decider'?
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:50 PM
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14. Great point! In all the millions of words I've heard about 9/11, I never heard
that before.

Did Cheney order Ashcroft to have the FBI stand down, so that the site could be politicized for Dubya's megaphone photo-op? After "bunnypants" Dubya returned from the series of hidey-holes where he spent September 11th, of course.

Remember Dubya's fund-raising material where he explained he was "just trying to keep out of harm's way" on that fateful day? There would not have been a breach for Rudy to jump into and become a "hero" had we had a President like Kennedy, Johnson, Truman, or Eisenhower on 9/11/01.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:54 PM
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15. a little more here
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:55 PM
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16. Drooliani is a weasel, anyone that doesn't know that isn't paying attention. nt
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 06:55 PM
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17. But didn't you hear Tweety? The entire NYFD is a left wing
organization hell bent on nailing Giuliani. Screw the facts this is a left wing hit job! :eyes:
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:07 PM
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18. I missed that, but am not surprised. nt
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ProgressiveEconomist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 07:19 PM
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19. Hmm... 'His heart is cold...he loves only gold...' What shall we call him?
I know...

Rudy GOLDFINGER!

I wish people would follow him around with boomboxes, blaring out the Shirley Bassey themesong from the 1967 movie.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:19 PM
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21. Gollumiani got his precioussss. nt
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-12-07 08:24 PM
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22. K & R! nt
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:30 AM
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23. KnR
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CitizenLeft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:38 AM
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24. wow.... he is toast
...one would think. I can't decide if we'd be better off with him as their nominee or not.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:44 AM
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25. the right says "swiftboating" as if they think it's a bad thing.
since when? i thought they fucking *loved* swiftboating. why, they were orgasmic over those anti kerry ads.

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