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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:35 PM
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Turkish security services in possession of videotapes of weapon deliveries by US military to PKK
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 03:36 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.ipsnews.net/news.asp?idnews=38510

ANKARA, Jul 12 (IPS) - It seems now certain: No invasion of Northern Iraq by the Turkish army before the legislative elections scheduled for Jul. 22. Disappointed? Many in Turkey are, not least the military. Surprised? Not a bit. Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan's fingers are expert at navigating between buttons of the yellow and red traffic lights of the road to Arbil.

.....

The Turkish population, regardless of geography, political affiliation, or social class, is increasingly vocal in its anti-Americanism, as recent polls have revealed, and the press reflects on a daily basis. Ahead of the elections, some candidates adroitly use the "ugly American" card, and conspiracy theories abound.

Many analysts, including business executives and academics, seem genuinely convinced that the U.S. government is planning to create a Kurdish state, cutting into Iraq and Turkey, in a model inspired by the creation of the state of Israel in 1948.

.....


Rumours on the streets of Ankara and other cities around the country, as well as in the editorial offices of newspapers and TV stations, purport that the Turkish security services are in possession of videotapes of weapon deliveries by U.S. military staff to PKK combatants in Northern Iraq. These, say critics of the Bush administration, are proofs of U.S. perfidy


Ex-PKK terrorist says northern Iraqi camps evacuated
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1319534&mesg_id=1319534
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:37 PM
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1. Looks like the Turks are stealing the Bush-Cheney-Lieberman logic on Iran
and using it on us.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:39 PM
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2. Well if it's good enough for the goose
STEPPERS it's good enough for the ganders
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:43 PM
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3. This transcend any American interfering...
The Kurds wanted the US to invade so that they might take advantage of the ensuing chaos and carve out their long sought homeland...

Stateless since the 1500's, the Kurds have been a thorn in the side of the Turks ever since they became the dominate ethnic group in the the old Ottoman Empire...

And don't look now, but there are a whole bunch of Kurds in Iran itching to unite with their brethren in Turkey and Iraq...

The shit will hit the fan in the northern tier of Iraq as Kurds start their own brand of pay back for being second class citizens for all those centuries...
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:45 PM
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4. The really sad thing is ...
... if the US denies it's delivering weapons to the PKK, I am no more inclined to believe them (us) than I am to believe the Turks.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 03:59 PM
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5. Iraqi Kurds: Politics altered oil law
http://www.upi.com/Energy/Briefing/2007/07/13/iraqi_kurds_politics_altered_oil_law/2941/

Although Iraqi Kurds are now opposing changes made to a draft oil law, their top envoy to Washington says there's time -- though not without end -- to reach a compromise on key issues.


Iraqi Kurds: Politics altered oil law



WASHINGTON, July 13 (UPI) -- Iraqi Kurds say the oil law has been delayed for political gain and accuse Oil Ministry officials of influencing a legal body's recent oil law report.

The Council of Ministers apparently approved the oil law last week, sending it to Parliament, but that has caused an uproar from Baghdad to Irbil, capital of the Kurdistan Regional government.

Opponents of an earlier draft's decentralization, as well as potential foreign oil company access, threatened to block the law's passage.

The Kurds, the draft's biggest promoter, also oppose it now, for what they call "unauthorized changes made to it."

That's because the new draft relied on changes made to it by the Shoura Council, a body designated to ensure the law used proper format and language and was consistent with the constitution.

"It's taken this back to square one, frankly," KRG Natural Resources Minister Ashti Hawrami told UPI from his mobile phone in Irbil. He was referring to additional changes that centralized authority given to regions and governorates in the draft agreed upon in February, including the control over oil.

The dispute over Iraq's oil includes political officials, oil experts and the unions, with varied demands on federalism, as well as limitations on foreign oil company access.

Much of it relates to the vaguely written 2005 constitution. The Kurds want the oil law to clarify the vagueness, while others want the constitution amended
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-13-07 04:07 PM
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6. IMPEACH!
Edited on Fri Jul-13-07 04:10 PM by Whoa_Nelly
They are determined to start another never-ending war, and one that could literally decimate ours and other nations, all before they are out of office January 20, 2009.

I wish I could start a march to DC from here in CA, carrying the letter

"I"

, and ask for others to join the march bringing the letters to complete

"IMPEACH!"

, as well as copies of ALL the videos where their traitorous lies and deceit have been revealed and unraveled.

What is it going to take to stop these evil bastards???

ITMFsA!

:grr::mad:

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/24608
Why We Need More Investigations Like Cheney Needs More Power
Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2007-07-12 19:51. Evidence | Impeachment
Their crimes stand open on the table before us. Their lies about Iraqi ties to al Qaeda are on videotape and in writing, and they continue to make them to this day. Their claims about Iraqi weapons have been shown in every detail to have been, not mistakes, but lies. Their threats to Iran are on videotape. Bush being warned about Katrina and claiming he was not are on videotape. Bush lying about illegal spying and later confessing to it are on videotape. A federal court has ruled that spying to be a felony. The Supreme Court has ruled Bush and Cheney's system of detentions unconstitutional. Torture, openly advocated for by Bush and Cheney and their staffs, is documented by victims, witnesses, and public photographs. Torture was always illegal and has been repeatedly recriminalized under Bush and Cheney. Bush has reversed laws with signing statements. Those statements are posted on the White House website, and a GAO report found that with 30 percent of Bush's signing statements in which he announces his right to break laws, he has in fact proceeded to break those laws. For these and many other offenses, no investigation is needed because no better evidence is even conceivable. And rather than taking three months, the impeachment of Cheney or Bush could be completed in a day.
But the investigations that Congress has pursued at its glacial pace over the past six months, while thousands upon thousands died, have produced another impeachable offense, the refusal to comply with subpoenas. That is what President Richard Nixon did; and his refusal to comply with subpoenas constituted the offense cited in one of the three Articles of Impeachment approved by the House Judiciary Committee on July 27, 1974 as warranting "impeachment and trial, and removal from office."
Bush and Cheney are claiming executive privilege. Nixon also tried that one. It didn't work then; and it won't work now. Condoleezza Rice is claiming, with more frankness, that she's just not inclined to comply. Even Nancy Pelosi ought to understand by now that the removal of the threat of impeachment is what empowers the White House to ignore subpoenas, and that the threat of impeaching the White House for its stonewalling would break down the wall even before we reached impeachment.
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