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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:10 AM Original message |
What happened in Vietnam after the Fall of Saigon? |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:11 AM Response to Original message |
1. Those who helped or supported the americans were killed. |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Not true |
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Longhorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. I work with an officer of the S. Vietnamese army who spent ten years |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #15 |
37. So?He was a criminal in the eyes of the government |
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Big Pappa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
141. Criminal? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #1 |
9. Heartbreaking stuff happened to people who helped/supported or were thought to. |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #9 |
20. "According to a knowledgeable American observer, the inmates faced hard labor, but only rarely |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Thank you guys. I posted without thinking. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
24. I know there was considerable violence against ethnic Chinese |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. That is absolutely false |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 05:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
111. Good thing for you, you would of been unemployed doing take out. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 07:59 AM Response to Reply #111 |
118. What does it matter when I was born |
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Big Pappa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #35 |
142. Have you got a link to this? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. Here ya go |
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Big Pappa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 03:35 PM Response to Reply #143 |
144. Thanks |
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Big Pappa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 03:40 PM Response to Reply #143 |
145. 10 years! That is a lot of education. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. No, three days wasn't true of everybody, nor was three years |
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Big Pappa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #147 |
149. I see |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #149 |
150. No, I think they really did line it up with extent of collaboration |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. Vietnam became one |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Blasphemy! |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #2 |
53. Economy is growing but is very far from western standards |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #53 |
92. We still have an EMBARGO on Vietnam!!!! |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #92 |
132. No we don't |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
3. brb kick! |
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DS1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
5. The Vietnamese finally got the government they wanted |
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Fountain79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
6. Some are still suffering to this day... |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. The Hmong are not Vietnamese |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:03 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. And badly mistreated everywhere |
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paulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. actually, the Hmong live all over SE Asia |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:15 AM Response to Original message |
7. That was a very different situation from what's going on in Iraq. |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Isn't that the same argument |
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Sparkly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. I'm sorry -- which argument? nt |
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razors edge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Where you state... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. Well there was that but I remember clearly being told |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
50. You are right. The Vietnamese never wanted their country to be divided |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Why should UN or someone else fix it?? |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #68 |
86. Welcome to DU!... But I don't think the US did anything 'singlehandedly' |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Hello |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:30 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. Thank you for an excellent post, Diclotican. |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #101 |
135. Thank you |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #68 |
133. Hi. I take it that you are European so it is good for me to hear your opinion. |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #133 |
134. Yes I am european; |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #134 |
139. Thanks for your reply. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
10. wikipedia has some info |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 01:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
138. Don't simply snip details that are inconvenient. |
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Crabby Appleton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
11. It wasn't pretty |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Conflating the mess in Cambodia with Vietnam is dishonest. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. After we left, everyone was given a timeshare, and paradise was formed. |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Wow what a total bullshit argument. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. "There was no bloodbath in vietnam." |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Another dishonest argument. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. So what is your definition of a Non-bloodbath after a war? |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
75. What happened in Vietnam vs what happened in Cambodia. |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
57. The ones that made it out first came to |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. Anybody who knows their history knows it's about INDOCHINA... |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Thank you. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #46 |
76. "Indochina" was largely a French creation, historically |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #76 |
90. Yes, and the war was largely the story of the dissolution and reconsolidation of these ethnic groups |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:31 PM Response to Reply #90 |
97. Oh, to be sure |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:40 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. The aftermath too... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:54 PM Response to Reply #98 |
99. Two things |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #99 |
103. What do you mean by practicable and ASAP in the actual context? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I mean damn near unconditional withdrawal, tout de suite |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:49 PM Response to Reply #104 |
105. ... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 12:08 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I'm not preaching to the choir |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 01:40 AM Response to Reply #106 |
107. And you have every right to that belief... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 07:54 AM Response to Reply #107 |
115. Yeah well |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 05:41 AM Response to Reply #104 |
112. Those arm wavers? Are those the same that were going to throw flowers? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 07:55 AM Response to Reply #112 |
116. You don't know what the fuck will happen after we leave |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 08:13 AM Response to Reply #116 |
119. You ask for citations, then blanket statement ... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #119 |
122. LOL |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 08:26 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. "I don't believe the arm-waivers of impending doom." Try that slowly. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 08:29 AM Response to Reply #124 |
126. Yeah, that would be you |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 08:40 AM Response to Reply #126 |
127. Then don't. We will both see how it plays out. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 09:03 AM Response to Reply #127 |
130. And my take is that the current situation is a nightmare |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 06:09 AM Response to Reply #76 |
114. Please correct/edit entry in Wikipedia. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #114 |
117. That citation comes from an unsources study discussed at length below |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Then change it. See it get edited. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Why should I bother? |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 08:23 AM Response to Reply #121 |
123. There are people that edit the site that know more than me and amazingly you. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 08:28 AM Response to Reply #123 |
125. I already showed you why that citation is dubious |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 08:41 AM Response to Reply #125 |
128. Use this in your defense when you edit the topic. No problem. Go for it. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 09:01 AM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Nice try |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
94. "It's a nice piece of real estate," JFK noted . . . |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 02:27 PM Response to Reply #29 |
55. Also, beware of anti-Communist propaganda by some Vietnamese in the U.S. |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. OK, but what REALLY took place in |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. The vietnamese government and system seems to be pretty popular |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #59 |
131. I was asking about the "re-education" camps, |
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
13. The Death rate dropped dramatically. |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
14. Nothing. At least that's what happened if you only got your news from the American MSM... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
49. Were you alive then? |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #49 |
70. Uh Yeah! I was 12 years old 1975 and I was very into watching the National and local news... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Well you were just a kid. |
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Up2Late (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 06:20 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. I was a just a kid, yes, but I was very interested in Vietnam and politics even then. |
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SOS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
72. The US supported Pol Pot |
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JacquesMolay (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
16. I know the movie 'The Killing Fields' covers... |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. If it hadn't been for the Vietnam People's Army (aka NVA) |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. You do understand that Cambodia is a different country than Vietnam, yes? |
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JacquesMolay (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #36 |
45. I understand that the Cambodian bombings were part of... |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. We deposed the legitimate government and installed the hated Lon NOl |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. The Khmer Rouge forces were divided into pro and anti Vietnamese factions, and Lon Nol's job was |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Yes, obviously |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
17. The Fall Out Here... |
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mrcheerful (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Yet After all was said and done 4 years after Fords defeat |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. The Unfinished Nixon Impeachment |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #30 |
96. We were slowly reintroduced to rid ourselves of the VN Syndrome via Grenada/Panama/ Gulf War I . . |
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
21. you can bet it wasn't a sixties-style, love-in over there... |
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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #21 |
38. You're back! |
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
83. BACK IN BLACK! and I come bearing gifts... |
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DetroitProle (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
39. I studied Vietnam |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Kissinger gives you an "A" |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
43. "The communists weren't warm and fuzzy" |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. Viet Minh was North Vietnamese |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. There was no North Vietnam until after the 1956 peace accord |
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kurth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Viet Minh was absorbed by the Communist party of North Vietnam in 1951: |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 03:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. Since there was no "North Vietnam" at the time (or ever, really) |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 03:21 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. No, that's wrong |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:19 PM Response to Reply #39 |
67. Taking some issues with you |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I'll take a bit of issue with your position, as well |
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Yupster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 05:07 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. I'll share the credit |
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DetroitProle (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. excellent clairifications |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
44. It was one of the largest refugee crises of the 20th century - the "Vietnamese Diaspora" |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
64. I would love to see the sourcing from that story |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #64 |
84. I'm sure you would. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. OK |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 09:02 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. "the nasty tone"??? (*edited*) |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Well, that upsets me |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 09:36 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Meet some of our former coworkers (and see the edits in my prior post) ... |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Well, that's what's at issue |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:09 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. I'll tentatively agree with one quibble. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
102. The work of history |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
51. The "collaborators" were imprisoned/executed , or in some cases |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
65. After so many years under the French |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
66. The world descended into complete anarchy and was left in smoldering ruins. |
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Warren DeMontague (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
71. We stopped fighting them there, so we had to fight them here. |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
78. Here's a great site with loads of pictures |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 06:24 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. that is an excellent site-thanks. |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. this picture just got to me... |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 05:38 PM Response to Original message |
79. Self-determination. |
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ellisonz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-14-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. Just ask the Natives... |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 01:56 AM Response to Original message |
108. Considering the amount of ordinance we dropped there |
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Phrogman (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
109. I know former ARVN officers are now the tour guides through several sites around Saigon |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
110. There was brief surge in demand "Ho Chi Minh City" signs |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-15-07 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
113. Just a bit messy, but those timeshares were in the works. |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #113 |
136. And the invaders from the US slaughtered 2 million in as much time |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #113 |
140. Desbarats and Jackson's methodologies were rather definitively refuted |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
137. Freedom stopped being on the march... |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 03:46 PM Response to Original message |
146. American troops stopped dying. |
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Puregonzo1188 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
148. Communism spread all throughout Southeast Asia and the next thing you knew |
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eagler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
151. One thing was a mass emigration of "boat people". |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-16-07 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
152. Here's a book about that time you might find interesting. |
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