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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:20 AM
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BREAKING: New Iraq National Intelligence Estimate Released
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/07/17/nie-released/

BREAKING: New Iraq National Intelligence Estimate Released

The key judgments of the Iraq National Intelligence Estimate have been released. Read them HERE. Below, some important findings:

Al Qaeda has “regenerated key elements of its Homeland attack capability”:

Al-Qa’ida is and will remain the most serious terrorist threat to the Homeland, as its central leadership continues to plan high-impact plots, while pushing others in extremist Sunni communities to mimic its efforts and to supplement its capabilities. We assess the group has protected or regenerated key elements of its Homeland attack capability, including: a safehaven in the Pakistan Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), operational lieutenants, and its top leadership.

Iraq has strengthened al Qaeda, which will seek to “leverage the contacts and capabilities” gained in the war:

Of note, we assess that al-Qa’ida will probably seek to leverage the contacts and capabilities of al-Qa’ida in Iraq (AQI), its most visible and capable affiliate and the only one known to have expressed a desire to attack the Homeland.

Al Qaeda’s association with “al Qaeda in Iraq” (AQI) helps to “energize the broader Sunni extremist community” and “recruit and indoctrinate operatives”:

In addition, we assess that its association with AQI helps al-Qa’ida to energize the broader Sunni extremist community, raise resources, and to recruit and indoctrinate operatives, including for Homeland attacks.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:24 AM
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1. In Other Words...the entire bu$h* policy has been a MISERABLE FAILURE.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:28 AM
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5. How could we possibly expect anything more than COMPLETE, UTTER,
TOTAL, MISERABLE FAILURE from George Bush.

Failure has defined the man's life.

I'll bet the Twins aren't even really his, he couldn't shoot straight if he only had one hole available to him.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:38 AM
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12. Well allrighty then!
:D
But the big question is, are we skeered enough yet?:scared:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:12 PM
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23. Nope
that's too mild - it's a clusterfuck.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:25 AM
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2. Homeland Homeland Homeland ...........
What fucking propaganda ...... writing this shit should be a crime.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:28 AM
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6. I hate that term
It reminds me too much of Nazi Germany
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:30 AM
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7. yup, Homeland, Fatherland--it's all icky sounding.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:26 AM
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3. Go Harry Reid
"Iraq has strengthened al Qaeda, which will seek to “leverage the contacts and capabilities” gained in the war ...."

Time to stop this crap .... "Our war to create terrorists."
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:40 AM
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Since bu$h* CHOSE to invade Iraq, then bu$h* has strengthened Al Qaeda.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:51 AM
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19. bush's war on terra
bin Laden still unaccounted for

Afghanistan has large areas back under Taliban control

al Qaeda stronger than before 9/11

Iraq in a civil war and quagmire

Ignored 52 warnings about the 9/11 attack including the 8/6/2001 PDB
"Bin Laden determined to strike inside the United States."

Stay the course??????????????????
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:27 AM
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4. ok can you look at this part and tell me if i'm reading too much into this?
Edited on Tue Jul-17-07 10:27 AM by chimpsrsmarter

We assess that greatly increased worldwide counterterrorism efforts over the past five years
have constrained the ability of al-Qa’ida to attack the US Homeland again and have led
terrorist groups to perceive the Homeland as a harder target to strike than on 9/11. These
measures have helped disrupt known plots against the United States since 9/11.

• We are concerned, however, that this level of international cooperation may wane as
9/11 becomes a more distant memory and perceptions of the threat diverge.




Ok i swear i am not a tin foil queen but....what i put in bold--i read that as "Well other countries aren't cooperating as much so we didn't get the correct intel to prevent the attack" like they already have a strategy on who can share the blame or place the blame on?

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:34 AM
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8. I also read in it a threat of another 9/11
can't be letting people forget now can they
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:35 AM
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10. ok thanks, it's always good to know you're aren't alone.
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:40 AM
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14. unless I'm completely brain dead,
but doesn't your post totally contradict the OP?

How can the NIE say both?

Or has work finally gotten to me?
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:42 AM
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15. i don't know, so much of what the Bush admin says contradicts reality and it self.
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PRETZEL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:44 AM
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16. touche..........n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:48 AM
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18. Before I read your comment I had pretty much the same thought.
They are laying the groundwork for a new propaganda strategy to both scare us and identify yet another "al Qaeda" enabler.

How much are you willing to be it won't be the Saudis?
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:54 AM
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21. They aleady wrote in their own rationale--it's the international community's
fault! They forgot 9/11! ChimpCo is now covered against blame for whatever happens.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:35 AM
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9. PROPAGANGA ALERT!
THis was "Declassified" and released to the media (White House anyone?) to spread FEAR FEAR FEAR and support the crazy idea that we have to keep fighting in Iraq.

I GUARANTEE this comes from Cheney's office.

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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:39 AM
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13. ding ding ding!
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:38 AM
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11. Hold on...Note the title of the report
"Iraq National Intelligence Estimate" Not, NIE. It is conflating AQ and AQI a la Bush/WH re-writers.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:46 AM
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17. yeppers. This is another justification for expansion of our perpetual war.
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 10:51 AM
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20. Check that -- "Eternal War"
(I started calling it that by the end of 2003.) Hmmm...maybe it should just be the 'Eternity War'. *wink*
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-17-07 12:10 PM
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22. But things were going swimmingly! (sarcasm) n/t
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