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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:05 PM
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There are several threads about Michael Vick in each forum
lots and lots of duplicates.

But I'm not posting this thread in order to complain about them.

I'm trying REAL hard not to pass judgment on Vick. Real hard.

If he is guilty of what he's accused of, I hope he fries in hell.

However, this state isn't exactly "brother friendly". This is why I have my guard up.

We have a 19 year old young man rotting in jail, all because he got a blow job (consensual) from a young white woman. The state is being really nasty about this particular case. If you want particulars, I'll post them.

A stay of execution was recently issued for another black man on death row. Seems some of the "witnesses" have suddenly recanted their testimony on the eve of the scheduled execution.

These are just two random examples off the top of my head.




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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:07 PM
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1. One of those threads is mine-and I think he is guilty as sin
Too much evidence. I was just trying to make a point.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:13 PM
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8. as I've said, I've been trying to stay away from the threads
but if he's guilty, fuck him.

The things I've heard done to those dogs just breaks my heart.

:hi:
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:32 PM
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23. Oh just horrible
How someone couldn't have them give them THAT LOOK just once and continue let alone go out of their way to be....I have to stop typing.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:07 PM
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2. The alleged offenses occurred at his home in Virginia
so I believe that's where any legal action would occur.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:08 PM
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3. Who's the 19-year-old? And hell? Really?
Seems a bit extreme.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:11 PM
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6. Genarlow Wilson
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:18 PM
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12. That 15-year-old wasn't white.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:21 PM
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14. you sure?
I read somewhere that she was :shrug:
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:30 PM
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20. Fairly sure, not to say that race isn't involved of course
I don't doubt that race was a factor, but not in the typical way of having a black male and white female.

from http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/bawnews/wilson0111 :

"Another girl willingly performed oral sex on the boys, an act that was caught on tape because one partygoer brought his camcorder to document the revelry. After the party, one of the girls -- both of whom are black, as is Wilson and the five other teens who, along with him, would be dubbed “The Douglasville Six” -- told her mother of her escapades."

And from wiki, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilson_v._State_of_Georgia

"Wilson had been convicted of aggravated child molestation because, at the age of seventeen, he had engaged in oral sex with a willing fifteen-year-old at a New Year's Eve party. Both Wilson and the fifteen-year-old are African American. The age of consent in Georgia is sixteen.<1><2>"

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:31 PM
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22. Thanks for the info
:)
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:32 PM
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24. :wave: no prob :-)
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northzax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:08 PM
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4. it's a federal offense
the trial will be at the Federal Courthouse in Richmond, VA.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:30 PM
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19. It became federal
When the activity crossed state lines, which according to documentation, it did to the tune of about 6/7 other states where he took his dogs.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:08 PM
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5. CON-VICK-TED!!
the dude is toast. Electrifying dogs, hanging them, drowning them? Plus he can't throw worth a crap.
:)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:12 PM
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7. LOL
I was thinking, if anything, he's guilty of being a Falcon :hi:
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Gato Moteado Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:14 PM
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9. hey CW.....in the 19 year old/blow job case.....
...what is the woman saying? did she testify in court that it was consensual? was she legal age in GA? if so, how does the state of GA get away with imprisoning the guy?

by the way.....how the hell have you been?
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:14 PM
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11. yes she did.
even her mother thinks the AG is being a vindictive prick.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:31 PM
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21. At the time of the incident
The girl was 15, he was 17. He's been in jail for 2 years. Yes, according to both parties, it was consensual.
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MISSDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:14 PM
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10. Unfortunately for Mr. Vick,
God sees everything and forgets nothing.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:19 PM
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13. My son thinks Vick is one of the best athletes in the world, but he
and his brother are rude, crude, psychopathic dudes,
and for all his ability, can't throw for beans
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:22 PM
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15. I've heard that his brother is an excellent ball player.....
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BronxBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:22 PM
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16. I Understand Cat
II have been careful to preface my comments with "alleged" and "IF"

But I think this case is a little different from the ones you cite.

I've been following this story since it borke and what's interesting is that I have heard both the local head of the humane society in that area and the national head of the humane society say that they have had heard about his involvement in this activity for quite some time and actually had trouble getting investigators to look into it.

This just has a different "feel" to it. In my gut, I know what I feel but you're right. Stranger things have happened. But that's why I'm not to thrilled about all of the people who are stating just flat out that this is a race-based set up. I didn't make one post in the Duke threads because it just didn't smell right. This doesn't have that smell of uncertainity. Maybe he didn't do everything that is being alleged. But he was involved in some level.

One thing he certainly is guilty of is being a major league dumbass. He has a $130 million dollar NFL contract and he's hustling $500 dog fights like the neighborhood drug kingpin.

And, if this all turns out to be true, that's the least of his transgressions.

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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:24 PM
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18. how can anyone one person be so fucking stupid?
One thing he certainly is guilty of is being a major league dumbass. He has a $130 million dollar NFL contract and he's hustling $500 dog fights like the neighborhood drug kingpin.

thanks for your comments, BB :hi:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:24 PM
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17. Read the indictment and the statements from the humane society...
This guy is toast....and deservedly so...
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:40 PM
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25. Link to indictment
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:46 PM
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26. You know...
it wouldn't be the first time the police tampered with evidence involving a famous black football star.

:shrug:
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:51 PM
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27. Read.The.Indictment.
Then tell me it is all faked....

The O.J case? Puhleez.....
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 03:55 PM
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28. Oh for fuck's sake. Are you serious?
Do you really give a shit? Are you looking for a new O.J. story? What's Michael Jackson up to recently?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-19-07 08:23 AM
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31. Huh? YOU were the one that brought up the OJ farce not me...
...
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RubyDuby in GA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 04:24 PM
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29. I completely agree with you about the other two, but Vick is scum
Edited on Wed Jul-18-07 04:25 PM by RubyDuby in GA
This is just the latest in a long list of things that Ron Mexico thought he would get away with.
I don't think they would have even dared indict him unless they have a pretty tight case against him.

But in the case of GW, this is bullshit and everyone of those asshat bastards under the Gold Dome knows it.

And on edit: he sucks as a QB. Seriously, at this point, I'm more consistent with my game than he is!
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-18-07 04:26 PM
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30. I don't think it's racially motivated this time
The real travesty is that we have to even ASK whether something is racially motivated or not, when these sorts of things come up.

So much for blind justice. "Justice" has been manipulated so much in this country due to racist motivations, it's hard to tell when it's justified, and when it's B.S., especially where black men are concerned.
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