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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:17 PM Original message |
Does the Earth care if it gets trashed by a Hummer or a Civic? |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Your choice, fast death or slow death |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Bicycles are transportation |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. Communication uses energy unless you're face-to-face |
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ThomWV (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
41. Yes it does, but far far less of it. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #41 |
52. Believe me, I'm on my boss' ass all the time about unnecessary travel |
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northzax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
2. does the Earth care either way? |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
3. I love those "need-based" arguments: |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. It's the leftist Puritan streak that sometimes crops up. |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I find that riding a bike is much more pleasurable than driving a car |
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driver8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:59 PM Response to Reply #9 |
25. Maybe in North Carolina...not in Los Angeles!! |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:06 PM Original message |
I ride in LA BUT when I am riding my bike to work (3 miles down Ventura Bl) |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Not in Michigan either, at least not in the winter |
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JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
68. Well there ya go...answered your own question Einstein... |
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Squatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:27 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Mine's more of a moderation streak sprinkled with a few indulgences. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
19. Actually, me too. I suppose I think a lot of people are. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
44. the trouble comes when the greed and self indulgence |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Yes. And my issue is always HOW the money is made - not what people do with it. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Why can't there be ethics on the spending side? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. I'm sorry - I thought it was implicit that spending would be limited to the same |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #3 |
27. I simply replace "need" with "want". |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #3 |
35. So just because there is a slippery slope |
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OneMoreDemocrat (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
5. Excellent point and question....... |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I'm not suggesting that people stop driving, just that they don't drive so much |
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OneMoreDemocrat (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. Neither am I...... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. In my free time I try not to "need" to go anywhere that I can't walk or bike |
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NaturalHigh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
69. I'd love to debate this with you... |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 01:20 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Heaven forbid people share opinions on this site |
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countingbluecars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. What does the person with the Hummer |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. Actually there are some differences between the two |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 06:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
64. Plus |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
12. Do you contend that significant mileage differences exist by auto type? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. Tell Me: Should Someone Guilty Of Killing Two People In Cold Blood Have The Right To |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. In what way was that a response to my post? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. You Seemed To Be Inferring That When Commutes Are Equal, The Hummer Driver Is Worse. |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. My only contention is that it's just as bad to waste fuel in a Civic as it is in a Hummer |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:10 PM Response to Reply #22 |
39. No, there are degrees of waste |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
14. The Earth is not threatened - it'll do quite nicely, maybe even better without humanity. |
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HonorTheConstitution (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
16. Sorry for ranting - But you do not need a science degree to know that the mileage of a hummer |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
17. How many soldiers to the mile does a hummer get? |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
18. I think the earth cares |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
20. I Agree With You Fully. I Posted A Similar Concept Months Ago As Well. |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. ...and you know this about your fellows how?...n/t |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
33. What is your mode of transport OMC? |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Hypocrites to the left of me, hyprocrites to the right...n/t |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. I'm pretty happy with reducing my carbon footprint |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
49. I'm Happy Reducing My Carbon Footprint As Well. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. You interpret people lifting their noses in the air. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 07:22 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Again, You're Combining Separate Issues. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Re-read my analogy while we're at it... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
28. In the other Hummer thread it was funny to see people complain about the driver living w his mom, |
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wuushew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
46. I just found it a strange conflict of purpose |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. I have no clue about their family situation. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
29. Don't buy a Prius - stop driving! |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. exactly and its human nature to make some assumptions. one, being that someone in a hummer |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
30. i'll be honest with you. when someone in driving around in a hummer |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. Good luck finding a DUer that admits to owning a Hummer :) |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. but thats kind of my point, people who are aware of the environment and care about it |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:11 PM Response to Original message |
40. You're suggesting people who drive Hummers drive responsibly? |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. I'm not suggesting that at all |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. That's true. |
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HughBeaumont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
42. I'd LOVE to not be able to drive a car. |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
43. It's because absolutely no laws limit which trips are "necessary"... |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
53. I prefer changing behavior with education and peer pressure |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:29 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. I was tempted to ask, "How's that working?" |
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taterguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. 20 years ago I didn't see the war on tobacco coming |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. And cigarettes are similarly phallic, too. |
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Clark2008 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
50. I don't know - I wouldn't own either one of 'em. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
56. Just because people can't do everything doesn't mean they shouldn't do something |
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Lilith Velkor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Thank you! |
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goodgd_yall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:59 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Agreed. n/t |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
59. I just spoke to the Earth...it said "yes". |
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Luna_C_06 (183 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
61. I use to walk everywhere |
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