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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:24 PM Original message |
BUSH ADMIN WHOPPER-Makes Up New Law Of Exec Privilege Against Congressional Lawmakers!!! (WAPO) |
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Guaranteed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Sure, you can make the charges, but our cronies won't follow up on them." |
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kevin4589 (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
57. Shamelessly criminal adminsitration |
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windy252 (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is what inherent contempt was designed for n/t. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. "Inherent contempt" is precisely how I would describe it. |
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Jack Rabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
35. Actually, this is for what impeachment is designed. |
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windy252 (742 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #35 |
60. That, too, |
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Captain Angry (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. Seems to me that if he wasn't President anymore, that the exec privilege kind of expires. |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
5. I HATE THESE PEOPLE!!! |
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Eric J in MN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
6. Congress can't force a US attorney to pursue any case... |
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AndyA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Congress doesn't need to utilize a U.S. Attorney at all. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. If it comes down to a shootout between the House Sergeant-At-Arms |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
27. Except punishment is mild and only good while that particular Congress is in session |
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movonne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
51. Then why hasn't congress doing something about this...we are |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
8. Executive privilege is a fiction |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. The cuffs should be on already...I should hope this will happen |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. When money becomes worthless. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
11. I still think the WH is trying VERY HARD to push this EP to the courts! |
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MiniMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 06:41 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Yes, to the courts that they have packed with federalist society judges |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
50. Clinton: Cheney flouts laws - June 2006 |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. Something Smells: Why would the WH do this that seems to force congress to go straight |
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Amonester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-19-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Because, Inherent Contempt is next on the Imperial Castle's |
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Occulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Inherent contempt will go to the SCOTUS |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
16. If to SCOTUS, then needs to be framed VERY CLEARLY, not half-baked |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 07:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
26. Landshark, Do you trust the SCOTUS to follow the constitution over *? |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. If CLEAR, then if the SCOTUS denies it, there's a political cause celeb |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #32 |
40. I am afraid that they will toe the line but have also read discussions of using the |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. Can't be framed very clearly |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
62. If the House started an impeachment inquiry for Gonzalez |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #16 |
52. yep, this will really test the quality of the Dems legal special forces |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
17. Ocean meets shoreline, and the Constitution is the ocean, and the |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Some late night metaphor... |
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file83 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
18. A "privilege" is something that can be revoked. |
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farmboxer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 02:22 AM Response to Original message |
20. Polls on Congress used to scare Congress into doing nothing |
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formercia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
21. The White House is just pulling this out of their ass. |
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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
22. And this ... |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 07:50 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. "Astonishing" claim of Admin, says Professor, but thanks kpete you said that already |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
25. The multiple pages of comments sound like a page off DU. People are POed |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:12 AM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I noticed the same thing. No one is speaking out in support of King George. |
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Blackhatjack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
28. OK so now the they throw down the gauntlet. Congress either has to impeach or accept it.... |
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Wiccan Warrior (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
30. The way I feel about all this COVER-UP |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #30 |
34. This recalls the Quote from Justice Brandeis about government law-breaking |
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Wiccan Warrior (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 07:01 AM Response to Reply #34 |
79. Thanks for that snip |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
33. I'm getting scared now. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:02 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. No one ever believes a coup could take place until it's too late |
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Marie26 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 10:14 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. But maybe the coup has already happened. |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
47. So WHAT is being planned NOW for new eventualities? |
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pushycat (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Maybe another 911 is being planned. Ask Paul Craig Roberts: |
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Knightly_Knews (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. This group is also affiliated with Blackwater.. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:20 PM Original message |
I realized it was a coup d'etat in 2000. What about the 5-4 decision wasn't a brazen crime? |
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dickbearton (577 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #41 |
74. Achtung! Achtung! |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
36. First thing I thought of when I read this, "If the president does it, it's not illegal". |
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Spiffarino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
38. Enough already. |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:46 AM Response to Original message |
39. Your editorial notation says it all kpete! Very clearly. K&R n/t |
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BrainGlutton (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
42. The limits of EP are for the courts to decide . . . |
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earthside (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
43. This is Tyranny! |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. They have DENIED our inalienable right to "alter or abolish" the government |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
44. They've got unlimited arrows in their quiver...will come up with |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
45. Bold, new? How about Aggressive, radical. K & R nt |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
46. Executive privilege will be used against impeachment too ...maybe. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:58 PM Response to Reply #46 |
67. And I bet my money on, "he's going to be thrown out on the lawn." |
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jayfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
49. "The position presents serious legal and political obstacles for congressional Democrats" |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:16 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. So Is Congress Going To Make The Call??? |
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C_U_L8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
53. Since when do Bush's "executive orders" count as LAW... |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. There is gray area there that has already been slightly adjudicated in court |
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Knightly_Knews (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. The problem is.... |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 02:30 AM Response to Reply #59 |
76. I am not fearful, and just because you don't see how something will survive............... |
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Knightly_Knews (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 03:11 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Nappy Time? |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-21-07 03:40 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Yea, dozing off, sitting in front of the screen, that kind of drill |
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BeyondThePale (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
61. Executive privilege was NEVER meant to cover up wrong-doing by the executive branch |
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creeksneakers2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
63. Bush ignores precedent favorable to himself |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 06:53 PM Response to Original message |
64. kick |
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Zorra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 07:22 PM Response to Original message |
65. We have to face the fact that the fascists have used long term planning |
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PurpleChez (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 08:44 PM Response to Original message |
66. Deutschland, Deutschland, über alles! |
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:00 PM Response to Original message |
68. Which flag did these guys pledge alliegence to? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:18 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Well, it's green, rectangular, and has pictures of famous American men on it. |
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 10:22 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. I think I found it |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:04 PM Response to Original message |
69. the Constitution is in CRISIS |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:20 PM Response to Original message |
71. "A Prince, whose Character is thus marked by every act which may define a Tyrant... |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
72. Bush is not the law - we are. |
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everydayis911 (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-20-07 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
73. So are they still |
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Land Shark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-22-07 01:57 AM Response to Original message |
80. Conyers says his intent is to pursue inherent contempt see this thread ... |
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