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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:29 AM
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Apparently there is *no* US Dept of Justice there is just a really, really big
legal department of the office of the president.

So while bushjr and his spokesfolks say he had no involvement in the USA firings - he now claims executive privilege which he, to my understanding, is only supposed to claim for conversations that HE has with HIS advisor's. Thus to claim it suggests he was directly involved in discussions with Taylor and Miers. But of course we can't even find that out due to the newest assertion that not only can the WH claim executive privilege - now the US DOJ can't pursue contempt charges against individuals claiming executive privilege.

When did the DOJ become ONLY an arm of the president and not an agency that works for the people and thus at the directives of Congress?

So all Bush and company has to do is declare EVERYTHING as executive privilege - and they can act with impunity - legality be d*mned.

In my impulsive moment I think Congress should call this what it is - an ending of the DOJ. Not only bring civil contempt charges and try Miers in the Constitutional method left to them - perhaps they should discuss the funding of the DOJ overall. If the DOJ is now a direct arm of the Office of the President, then perhaps it should be funded through the Office of the President. Okay - that makes no sense as that would grind to a halt many, many investigations (as the FBI and other agencies work under the DOJ umbrella) - but this latest power grab by the WH requires something much greater than civil contempt hearings against Miers (and Bolten?).

Perhaps a president making an entire (and major) Dept of the Govt into a personal office - and a part of its political operations... should be held accountable. And the WH seems to be daring the Congress to start Impeachment hearings. Perhaps it is time for congress to take the WH up on the "I double dog dare you!" gauntlet that has been thrown down.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:31 AM
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1. I think you've nailed it.
The whole department.... It walks, talks & quacks like a duck.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:36 AM
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2. While there are certainly some civil service (professional)
Edited on Fri Jul-20-07 05:37 AM by salin
employees - esp those hired before manipulative Monica started hiring civil positions on political bases - even they appear to be put to work for the president. It is heartbreaking, for me, to watch a major branch of the govt be, essentially, made impotent on so many levels.

Imagine what the RWers would be saying if this were 1998 and the top names were Clinton and Reno.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:41 AM
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3. You seem to have forgot the Bush is ruling with God behind him
Bush has forgot it is our govt. and is sure he is right and it is his govt. It is a mind set that many rulers have had in history. Our 'founders' set up this govt. so it would not be done here.The Royalist are still with us.
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salin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 05:43 AM
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4. He is now clearly acting on the "It would be easier if this were a dictatorship"
statement he made early on in his term/er/reign.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 06:16 AM
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6. It is a messy govt. How to make 300 Million happy?
I do think Bush is the wrong man at the wrong time. He seems to be back in the 19th century and so endless sure he is right about every thing. What an ego and I do not think he even sees it or ever will. Ruling by elites seem to have been born in him and he believes in it all plus he drags up God as a back up.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-20-07 06:01 AM
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5. Congress needs to defund the DOJ and impeach Bush!
ASAP!
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