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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:37 PM
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Hillary's a rock star.
Whatever you might think about her, she is the Madonna of the political world.

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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:38 PM
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1. Hmmm....
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 06:38 PM by babylonsister
Hillary and Madonna in the same thread?

:popcorn: :popcorn:
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MonkeyFunk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:38 PM
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2. LOL
that may be overstating it, but she does do VERY well in these debates, and she appears to have the audience behind her.
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:39 PM
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3. And on cue, we get a
"Hair" video.
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:39 PM
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4. She and Obama are both getting great responses from the crowd. n/t
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:39 PM
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5. Lots of botox and weird orange skin...come to think of it, she does look like a rock star
albeit an aging one.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:41 PM
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8. You are having a relapse
back to the 04 debates....That's Kerry you are seeing in your vision.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:23 PM
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32. Kerry never had orage skin - that was a RW photo shop lie
as people in Wisconsin with him at the time all posted in the Kerry blog then.

The Botox lie was despicable. They took a photo from when Kerry was recovering from cancer surgery and treatment and used it as the before and used a smiling healthy Kerry photo from when he was campaigning nearly a year later and claimed it was botox - even though it was obvious Kerry had the normal wrinkles of someone in his late 50s.

The Kerry campaign denied botox, but was not about to explain and bring up the fact that he had been successfully treated for cancer.

Hillary Clinton actually looks good for her age - this is not a contest for models
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4_TN_TITANS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:34 AM
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62. I'll second that....
Even if I'm nowhere close to falling in her camp, she has definitely improved with age. :evilgrin:
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:41 PM
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9. At least she's not stuttering.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:09 PM
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21. Low blow.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:13 PM
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25. And the one I responded to wasn't?
I don't see your comment there.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:49 PM
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14. Comments on her looks and marriage. Team Smear-4-Obama likes it shallow (nt)
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:07 PM
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19. Awww, whatsa matter? As if everyone's appearance and marriage isn't fair game
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 07:07 PM by BeyondGeography
By the way, my wife has confirmed it's Spray Tan that gives her the orange glow.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:16 PM
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27. Fair game for certain Obama supporters, it appears.
Most decent DUers, heck decent people, avoid such BS.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:47 PM
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38. We are on an anonymous internet board
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 07:47 PM by NNN0LHI
Don't know who really supports who under those conditions here. Think about it.

Don
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:49 PM
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40. True enough.
Which is why I do not allow supporters of a candidate to color my support one way or the other for that candidate.

Besides, there are supporters of Obama that I get along with.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:52 PM
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15. Are you a sexist because of ageism or an ageist because of sexism?
And pray tell, what would you call someone commenting on Obama's skin color??? Hmmm?


:dunce: :thumbsdown:
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:33 PM
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34. I noticed too
she has either had plastic surgery or botox injections cause her face has that weird smooth look to it, kinda like Nancy Pelosi's.
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:35 PM
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35. She looks the same, natural self...
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 07:38 PM by liberalnurse
as when I saw her up close and personal in May of this year.

Link has pictures...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=172x22165
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:05 PM
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46. Interesting,,Thanks for link
she is looking more youthful, maybe vitamins. :D
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:17 PM
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59. It's probably an anti-wrinkle face cream.
I noticed she looked less wrinkled; but, I love her wrinkled. It's natural, you know. If we want experience, we should have wrinkles. After the senate's all nighter, you wouldn't have to look hard for wrinkles. She is pushing sixty, and gosh would they make her pay for plastic surgery. I hope she never does that.
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Harper_is_Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:53 PM
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43. She's used botox? n/t
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:25 PM
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61. Absolutely major-league botoxed. And it makes me mad; she could stand against this crap.
She could let her face, naturally lined from years of being in public service and the public eye(and being married to a guy who may be a great politician but who is a scamp and a real handful), show on camera to the world. Instead, she removes all emotion from her face with botulism toxin and goofy orange makeup.

Of COURSE I care more about what she says than how she looks. I just hoped she would stand up to all the "ageism" and "lookism" in this political world and say, "Just because I'm the first major woman candidate for president doesn't mean I have to look like I've never had a wrinkle. This is my real face, America! And there's a brain behind this face." But no. Thick orange pancake and deadened facial nerve endings.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:39 PM
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6. LMFAO.. uh take it from a roadie
everyone seems to want to use the term "rock star" when it comes to candidates who get a lot of press. Take it from one who knows, you guys need to stop using that metaphor, it's not even close...
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:41 PM
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7. No argument from me.
I will take this opportunity though to say this, I have been trying to be nice to all candidates in the debate, but because of two people I feel the need to take the gloves off.
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sicksicksick_N_tired Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:43 PM
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10. Well, I expect no less from an intelligent, articulate, worldly woman.
She IS exceptional.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:58 PM
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16. Hear hear
Rock star sounds alright, but I like your adjectives more :)
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ElizabethDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:08 PM
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20. Beautifully said. n/t
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:44 PM
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11. Ladies and Gentlemen, the Rock Star of the United States. (cue Hail to the Chief.)
Unfortunately, what we need is a president and a candidate who can win in November.

I can't picture a rock star with a Celine Dion theme song.
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William769 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:45 PM
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12. I can.
:)
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:46 PM
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13. By marriage, anyway. ;)
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 06:58 PM
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17. I wonder what her hair and makeup bill is? She looks totally different to me.
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Crankie Avalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:02 PM
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18. Sure. In a few ways, a regular Ted Nugent.
:hide:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:11 PM
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22. Madonna expressed HER OWN ideas & opinions. Milli Vahillary cannot say the same.
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bigwillq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:14 PM
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26. HA!
Can you say DUzy?!?!?

:rofl:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 10:54 PM
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56. Oh, I hope not.
DUzys should be for things every DUer can enjoy,
and EVERY DUer certainly wouldn't enjoy that quip.
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DancingBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:12 PM
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23. You're right!
Aren't most rock stars these days underwritten by corporations?

Don't they have to dance to every tune the sponsors play, lest they lose the $$?

She is a rock star, yes indeed.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:13 PM
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24. Yep, a corporate candidate.
Made for TV and the Status Quo.
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conspirator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:37 AM
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63. She is a rock start alright. And her producer are the corporations and the MIC. Deja vu nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:17 PM
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28. The material girl living in a material world?
I don't know that Hillary Clinton would want to be called Madonna - reinventing herself was a key Madonna trait.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:17 PM
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29. It wasn't long ago that Condi was a "rock star." We need a
Franklin Roosevelt (or an Al Gore) to get us out of this mess.
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Ron Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:21 PM
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30. Yeah, not a "rock star," but maybe a "jazz great."
You know, somebody who can actually play.

:smoke:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:21 PM
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31. She's also the GOP's candidate of choice.
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 07:27 PM by Marr
And by extension, the corporate media's. They're selling her as hard as they can.

A Hillary Clinton nomination is the only thing that could get the Republicans' disillusioned voters out to the polls. Add to that her thoroughly DLC background, and you've got the worst of both worlds.

Why should we risk everything to gain nothing?
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:38 PM
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36. Agree
if Hillary gets the nomination it's going to be a disaster for the Democratic party cause the rethugs will end up controlling it all. x(
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:45 PM
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52. Yup. Why do you think they're all pretending to be afraid of her?
And people here are buying it.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:27 PM
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33. WHATCHU LOOKING AT???
VOGUE!! VOGUE!!!

:)
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:02 PM
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45. My question is: What's he smoking...? (n/t)
:eyes:
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MODemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:46 PM
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37. Yes Indeed. We really like her in our county
Edited on Mon Jul-23-07 07:47 PM by MODemocrat
NT:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:49 PM
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39. Is that what the media is telling us, or is it in fact true?
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:52 PM
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41. of the same mold as Alice Cooper
both share the same political leanings...

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Big Pappa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:52 PM
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42. Like a virgin...touched for the very fist time.
Sorry.:hide:
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 07:56 PM
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44. Who's Madonna?
:shrug:
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superkia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:17 PM
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47. Because she gets the media coverage
the average American seem to think she is the answer to all our problems, same reason most people were all behind the war before we went because they believe what the media says as truth and reality!Can we get some equal media time for all candidates, isnt that how its supposed to be?
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WA98296 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:21 PM
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48. Put there courtesy of the CORPORATE demons.
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sniffa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:22 PM
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49. does she have a british accent now?
otherwise, obama's the madonna of this race.

and i say that as an anti-frontrunners.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:28 PM
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50. -I like Obama
Hillary looked beautiful tonight. They all did very well.
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:39 PM
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51. I think I just threw up a little in my mouth
If you think Hillary is a rock star, you must listen to a bland corporate "adult contemporary" radio station - you know, like the kind that played her "campaign song".

Blech!

No, AL GORE is the rock star. Hillary is Celine Dion.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:48 PM
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53. Clinton is hte Margaret Dumont of the political world.
But with a mean streak.
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Nimrod2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 08:49 PM
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54. ROFL.........nt
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lutefisk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 09:07 PM
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55. A rock star like the Monkees were rock stars...n/t
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misanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:03 PM
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57. That reaffirms it...
...Madonna sans vagina is no star at all. Hillary sans Bill is nowhere.
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Kazak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:16 PM
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58. Clinton/Madonna '08, anyone?
Uh, no.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-23-07 11:19 PM
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60. Iraq Star ???
:evilgrin:
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 10:24 AM
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64. Oderus Urungus?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 10:25 AM
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65. If Madonna ran for president....
I'd be her campaign manager..... She gets it.
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