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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 09:36 PM Original message |
Michael Moore slams US Voting (video link) – Says Look to Canada – Hand Counted Paper Ballots |
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bonito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 09:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. This goes to the root of every issue in this country |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. You're so right. Moore said it so easily, clearly... |
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Stevepol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. I'm blown away that MM finally is starting to get it. Maybe his next movie??? |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 10:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Stevepol, my esteemed colleague and friend... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
4. What more can we ask of Michael Moore . . I know, run for President--- !!!! |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I'll go for that ticket...I say, lets ask him. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. Except that hand counted ballots have been among... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 10:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. It's much harder to do wide spread large scale fraud with paper ballots. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. It's hard to do that with most systems... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:53 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. The computers make fraud a snap. They were built to be used that way. Sure there are |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. Joker Poker games set up as voting... |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. Dennis' Bill also calls for |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 10:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. Goes to the heart of Democracy. |
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FogerRox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
9. Good on ya MM |
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tuvor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
11. For accuracy's sake: Not *all* Canadian elections are hand-counted. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Moore's comments about Canadian elections are... |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 02:25 AM Response to Reply #16 |
23. He's not giving them targets, he's speaking to their concerns |
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galloglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
12. k and R !! |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
13. K&R |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. I'll count the votes. |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:29 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. I'm making some voting machines |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 02:26 AM Response to Reply #14 |
24. If Kurovski gets in he says I can be chairman of the Federal Reserve |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. You're spreading rumors!! |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
18. I just watched I think 14 minutes, the whole posted video--no HCPB |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 02:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Watch the whole thing. |
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emlev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. Sorry to be unclear--what I watched was the whole thing that was... |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-23-07 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
19. That's HCPB for president only |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 02:34 AM Response to Reply #19 |
26. You might be surprised. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Could you please comment on my specific situation? |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 01:38 AM Response to Original message |
22. K&R |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
28. re: Elections Canada |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Thanks for this insight. Very helpful. |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. Another Canadian here -- I've taken part in hand-counts on federal election day |
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Locrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 10:50 AM Response to Original message |
29. caging |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 11:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Absolutely, its pre registration-election day-counting-scheming in between |
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Kurovski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
30. Kick. |
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Me. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
32. Not Paper Ballots |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. New York State played this really well. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
36. for people who like to read gov't policy docs |
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autorank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:06 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Good point!!! |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
38. Problem is that in Canada we don't vote for anyone but the local candidate. No judges or |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. That's not quite accurate, I have had to vote for the Mayor, Council, School Board and |
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applegrove (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 06:54 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. But when you voted for the federal government in Canada it was only one ballot - right? |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Yes, as could be the ballot for the President/Vice President |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-24-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. No, the same could not happen in the US |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 09:34 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. Why not? Are you saying you have to go to multiple polling |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #45 |
49. We currently vote on them on one ballot |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
46. MM's next film needs to be about the media and our voting machines. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:59 PM Response to Original message |
48. And so what if it takes days to count the vote... Democracy ain't take-out food... |
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