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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:17 PM
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Bush: "Iraq is not the reason that the terrorists are at war with us."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/07/20070724-3.html

President Bush Discusses War on Terror in South Carolina
Charleston Air Force Base
Charleston, South Carolina


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Here's the bottom line: Al Qaida in Iraq is run by foreign leaders loyal to Osama bin Laden. Like bin Laden, they are cold-blooded killers who murder the innocent to achieve al Qaida's political objectives. Yet despite all the evidence, some will tell you that al Qaida in Iraq is not really al Qaida -- and not really a threat to America. Well, that's like watching a man walk into a bank with a mask and a gun, and saying he's probably just there to cash a check.

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Some note that al Qaida in Iraq did not exist until the U.S. invasion -- and argue that it is a problem of our own making. The argument follows the flawed logic that terrorism is caused by American actions. Iraq is not the reason that the terrorists are at war with us. We were not in Iraq when the terrorists bombed the World Trade Center in 1993. We were not in Iraq when they attacked our embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. We were not in Iraq when they attacked the USS Cole in 2000. And we were not in Iraq on September the 11th, 2001.

Our action to remove Saddam Hussein did not start the terrorist violence -- and America withdrawal from Iraq would not end it. The al Qaida terrorists now blowing themselves up in Iraq are dedicated extremists who have made killing the innocent the calling of their lives. They are part of a network that has murdered men, women, and children in London and Madrid; slaughtered fellow Muslims in Istanbul and Casablanca, Riyadh, Jakarta, and elsewhere around the world. If we were not fighting these al Qaida extremists and terrorists in Iraq, they would not be leading productive lives of service and charity. Most would be trying to kill Americans and other civilians elsewhere -- in Afghanistan, or other foreign capitals, or on the streets of our own cities.

Al Qaida is in Iraq -- and they're there for a reason. And surrendering the future of Iraq to al Qaida would be a disaster for our country. We know their intentions. Hear the words of al Qaida's top commander in Iraq when he issued an audio statement in which he said he will not rest until he has attacked our nation's capital. If we were to cede Iraq to men like this, we would leave them free to operate from a safe haven which they could use to launch new attacks on our country. And al Qaida would gain prestige amongst the extremists across the Muslim world as the terrorist network that faced down America and forced us into retreat.

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Mythsaje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:20 PM
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1. No, but Iraq sure as hell is the reason there are more of them
than there were, you flaming twit!
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unpossibles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:20 PM
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2. "we were not in Iraq..."
no, but we sure were bombing the hell out of them and putting up bases in Saudi Arabia and supporting Israel...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:07 PM
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17. AND NEITHER WERE THEY!
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:21 PM
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3. No, the US being in Iraq just makes it so much EASIER for the bad guys.
No, invading didn't start it, withdrawing won't end it, but as long as the US is in Iraq, fighting the US is just plain simpler and easier. Bush wants to fight them; they want to fight Bush; everyone's happy.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:21 PM
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4. ? for bush
What country provides the most money and fighters who
target American troops in Iraq?

Answer Saudi Arabia
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:27 PM
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7. Al Qaeda is the engine for "creative destruction" in Iraq...

by pitting Sunni against Shia it creates a political faultline which undoubtedly leaves open the possibilities that exist in exploiting the oil fields, which ultimately benefits the Saudis.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:32 PM
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10. maybe
Although I have noticed with in the past 2 months THE ONLY group
we are fighting as per the White House & Fox is al Qaeda ....

The Iraq study group put the # of foriegn al Qaeda @ 1,300 (in Feb).
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:51 PM
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14. They seem to ignore the fact that there is a real (Sunni-led) Iraqi insurgency...
fighting American occupation, but which recently also came out AGAINST Al Qaeda in Iraq. I wonder what their numbers are?
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:22 PM
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5. Who writes this shit? They're in need of a good sixth grade English teacher!
Talk about going in circles.
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VP505 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:14 PM
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23. Not only
an English Teacher but some remedial History lessons as well. Our Foreign Policies, those seen as shitting on the Arab world by Muslims didn't just start in Iraq.
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:25 PM
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6. Guess Georgie never took logic in any of those high priced prep schools or colleges Poppy paid for.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:27 PM
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8. unreal
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:06 PM
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16. It's like watching a very slow train wreck
Only this train has millions of Iraqi children, and Bushler is Casey Jones with blazing red eyes, screaming "YEEEEEHAAAAAW!!!" as he drives it over the edge and down into the Grand Canyon.



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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:47 PM
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22. and he'll walk free, Swamp....my heart is undone
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Atman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:29 PM
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9. No, George, it would not be "a disaster for our country." It will be one for YOU.
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 03:12 PM by Atman
And it's going to be anyway. We all know that, especially you, as you do everything within (and beyond) your power to stop any and all investigations into the lies you told to start the war, and the eventual, certain doomed outcome. YOU FUCKED UP GEORGE. Waiting to pass it on to Clinton or Obama or Kucinich (LOL...just playing the eternal optimist) won't make it any less of a historical catastrophe, and it won't fool anyone. You own this one, Mr. Bush.

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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:08 PM
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18. L'etat, c'est moi.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:36 PM
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11. shut the hell up huh?
* can he just leave now? please go talk to psychologist or psychiatrist about your deep sickening issues. Go get some help for drug/alcohol abuse.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:37 PM
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12. Keep it up, Dubya
Keep talking to Americans as if they were children. Keep using the same old bullshit. The facade is almost completely transparent. Just a few more times and even the 25 percenters will see right through you.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:45 PM
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13. He is down to 22% now.
Hell on Keith Olbermann last night 78% of the Country thinks bush is
too stubborn on Iraq ... 55% of Republicans now think that way.

Washington Post Poll (I think)
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:01 PM
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15. Not surprised at all
Once the pendulum begins to swing, there's really no stopping it.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:13 PM
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19. There he goes again with his fuzzy math.
Al Q has around 1,500 members in Iraq. The Insurgency has around 200,000. Which group is the larger threat? If the US Occupation ended, the Iraqis would kick out the foreign intruders comprised of al Q. The only reason that the US Occupation continues is to control the Oil is Iraq.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:59 PM
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24. and for $500.00 and control of the board what question goes w/ this ....
.... answer:

Who are the Saudis.

ding ding

Ah Alex that would be .....

What country has sent more money and fighters to help the Sunni insurgents in Iraq?

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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:21 PM
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20. The idiot is still acting like he's riding high on 31 percent approval ratings or something.
;shakes head:
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:30 PM
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21. Iraq - 9/11, Iraq - 9/11, Iraq - 9/11
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