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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:25 PM Original message |
The contempt citation of Harriet Miers and Josh Bolten - realistically - will they ever be punished? |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. Even tho he will pardon them, congress needs to take a stand and say NO, |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Bush cannot pardon them for contempt of Congress |
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soothsayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. seriously??? then, damn, I hope congress starts throwing some contempt at them! |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. But he can influence Gonzo to not indicting them. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. And that's fine because |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. If it is the House only... |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-26-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. The MSM is playing up the US Attorney referral angle |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. We all know they won't get jail time. What a way to help prove to the masses |
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libnnc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. No. But they'll get a really sweet book deal. |
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tridim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. What about "They are forced to testify" option? |
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theoldman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. It will go on their records and will restrict what they can do |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. Read this: |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
12. Will Congress then spank or jail them? |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I think that |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. So they can't just ignore the charges? |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. They can ignore the charges at their political peril |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
8. There are reports from the WH that they will not allow the DOJ try the case. Without |
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dmosh42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Yes, if they try them in the House.... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. DOJ refuses to prosecute, so the house moves on to inherent civil contempt... |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. This will go to Supreme Court (a year or more from now?) to decide the issue of |
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wiggs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. Simple: No. This is cosmetic, which may have some minor value, but the |
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dmosh42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. In case of inherent contempt, they will be locked up,.... |
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RiverStone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. And how long before they get their first serving of jail food? |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
15. Maybe you're right. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
18. Punished? Doubtful. They will take the cases to court to press the executive privilege issue. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
19. The smart money is on some sort of cave-in compromise like: |
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dmosh42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. don't think so.... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
21. no |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
22. I don't know. I have my doubts. Inherent contempt would pique |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 03:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. The House took the chicken shit way out. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. YOu must not be reading this thread |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-25-07 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
31. Even though it may not bring |
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