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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:15 AM
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Bush has frequent videoconferences with Iraq's Maliki to discuss their shared belief in end times
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 08:19 AM by bigtree
July 25, 2007



Bush and Iraqi: Frequent Talks, Limited Results

WASHINGTON, July 24 — Once every two weeks, sometimes more often, President Bush gathers with the vice president and the national security adviser in the newly refurbished White House Situation Room and peers, electronically, into the eyes of the man to whom his legacy is so inextricably linked: Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki of Iraq.

In sessions usually lasting more than an hour, Mr. Bush, a committed Christian of Texas by way of privileged schooling in New England, and Mr. Maliki, an Iraqi Shiite by way of political exile in Iran and Syria, talk about leadership and democracy, troop deployments and their own domestic challenges.

Sometimes, said an official who has sat in on the meetings, they talk about their faith in God.

“They talk about the challenges they face being leaders,” said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity in order to discuss private conversations. “They, of course, also share a faith in God.”

The official declined to elaborate on the extent of their religious discussions, but said, “It is an issue that comes up between two men who are believers in difficult times, who are being challenged.”

In the sessions, Mr. Bush views Mr. Maliki’s crisp image on a wall of plasma screens. Aides say the sessions are crucial to Mr. Bush’s attempts to help Mr. Maliki through his troubled tenure. The meetings are also typical of the type of personal diplomacy Mr. Bush has practiced throughout his presidency, exemplified by the way he warmed to President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia — misguidedly, in the view of some policy analysts — after Mr. Putin showed him a cross he wears that his mother gave him . . .


article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/25/washington/25maliki.html?_r=1&bl=&ei=5087%0A&en=f0ae46f562e3a21f&ex=1185681600&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&adxnnlx=1185541318-LHDaJzF+BoDMvQey0meyVA&pagewanted=print
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:16 AM
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1. Let Bush's Endtime Come First
It's overdue, by my clock.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:18 AM
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2. * is a very sick sick man.
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 08:18 AM by alyce douglas
* has no religion.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:21 AM
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3. We need Star Trek holodeck technology now.
Bush, Cheney and anyone who wants to follow them can go play out their apocalyptic fantasies, and the rest of us can roll up our sleeves and start cleaning up this world.
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marylanddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:29 AM
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4. How very reassuring...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:29 AM
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5. A tactical leak-to let the C. Right that Bush is being a good boy!
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:32 AM
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6. At least thry 're talking about
exit strategy.
:rofl:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:34 AM
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8. ha ha . good one!
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:36 AM
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11. Tom Delay told him he had to be in direct contact with Israel during rapture
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 08:42 AM by bigtree
if he didn't want to be left behind . . .

Delay: "we have to be connected to Israel to enjoy the second coming."

http://rawstory.com/news/2007/Delay_US_and_Israel_to_enjoy_0726.htm
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:32 AM
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7.  ‘You need to do this to be a leader for all of Iraq,’---love it--the little mind is
lecturing Maliki on how to be a good leader------as if Bush KNOWS!

President Bush’s first point, the official said, was, “ ‘You need to do this to be a leader for all of Iraq,’ but secondly, ‘As you do this, it will also send a message to the region which will help you with your Sunni neighbors but, quite frankly, it will help me here at home.’ ”
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:36 AM
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9. Great move since both their
fugging end times are coming soon and very soon.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:36 AM
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10. that big fuck cheney is sitting right next to Jr.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:48 AM
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15. He's waiting for them to leave
so he can finish watching his Hannibal Lecter video collection . . .


Lecter: "...would they have you back, you think? The FBI? Those people you despise almost as much as they despise you. Would they give you a medal, Clarice, do you think? Would you have it professionally framed and hang it on your wall to look at and remind you of your courage and incorruptibility? All you would need for that, Clarice, is a mirror."
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:39 AM
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12. Guess Maliki must have his own power generator
If he's able to operate his satellite equipment for "more than an hour" at a time.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:41 AM
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13. ARGH. Kill me now, please--I agree with John Bolton:
John R. Bolton, the former United States ambassador to the United Nations, cautioned against relying too much on a single Iraqi leader. “It’s not a question of faith in one person at this point,” he said. “The issue for the Iraqis is whether they’re going to find a way to live together.”

By the way--the article really mentions nothing at all about "end times." you are fo course free to interpret it as you see fit, but anyone who didn't read the article would be influenced by the SL.
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 08:48 AM
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14. As an infidel, Bush* wouldn't survive al-Maliki's end times. As a non-Christian, al-Maliki
wouldn't survive Bush*'s end times. End of discussion.
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:17 AM
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16. NO MENTION OF "END TIMES" IN THE ARTICLE!!!
The shared belief mentioned is in 'difficult times.'
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:31 AM
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18. how do you think their discussions about religion go?
Bush is definitely an 'end timer', and Maliki's religion has it's own elements of a dedication to an inglorious end . . .


Asked how history would judge the war, Bush replied: "History. We don't know. We'll all be dead."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1193971,00.html


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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:03 AM
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20. Their discussions about religion?
Well, Maliki is upset because we keep sending him pallets of American dollars rather than Saudi riyals.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:14 AM
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21.  and bibles
his buddy Franklin Graham keeps smuggling in Arabic-language bibles
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Gruenemann Donating Member (753 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:32 AM
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22. I have no idea how their discussions go.
I was just interested in setting the record straight about the content of this article.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:54 AM
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23. the 'content' reveals that Bush is still obsessed with his religion
. . . which has been defined by his close association with 'end time' evangelists and his comments about his 'mission' from God as he defends his militarism. It reveals that our presidential end-timer is sharing his religious beliefs with foreign leaders, including Maliki and Putin. The article puts their discussion of their religion in the context of their shared belief that they are personally 'challenged' by 'difficult times'. That's dead-on, end-time rhetoric, at least from the official who characterized the exchanges.

What do you think they actually talk about when they 'frequently' discuss their 'faith in God'?
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 09:25 AM
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17. Raise your hand if you have electricity 24 hours a day.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 10:00 AM
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19. the green zone is little America
with all of the amenities, like running water, electricity to run a vidioconferencing network, air conditioning . . .
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:02 AM
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24. To better peer into Maliki's eyes, Bush needs to move to Iraq
He should take up residence there so he could peer into Maliki's eyes all day.
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