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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:30 AM
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Yoo: "Without secrecy, the government can't function"


Without secrecy, the government can't function. No one thinks conversations between federal judges and their clerks, or members of Congress and their staff, ought to be aired publicly without good reason. The same goes for presidents--even if their poll ratings are low.

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http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110010371
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:32 AM
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1. Uh, isn't "without good reason" a loophole big enough to fly Saturn through?
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 11:41 AM by Kagemusha
Well, since it's Yoo, he must have a very expansive idea of what constitutes the proper functioning of government. If that includes lawbreaking, well, it's the law's fault for being in the President's way, isn't it?

Edit: There's a big problem with Yoo's otherwise sensible sounding points about nothing being done in the US Attorney scandal etc. having been conclusively proven to be a crime. Namely, the DoJ, the US Attorneys, etc, only exist because of acts of Congress, and that is what gives Congress oversight of them. They are public institutions. Because the President did not create them, it's reckless disregard of separation of powers on Congress' side to arbitrarily declare that they owe Congress nothing and need not cooperate whatsoever with Congress for any reason beyond, "the President said so". They work for the People; they are not the President's personal servants. At least, that's not how Congress made them, but that's how Yoo wants to rhetorically remake them.

That's just wrong and mistaken.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:34 AM
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2. Tell it to, Peter Arnett, Mr. Yoo!
What's it like to know that your allegiance to secrecy cost your father-in-law his job and his reputation?
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:34 AM
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3. YOO---we HAVE a GRAND reason
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:34 AM
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4. Not exactly Yoo.
Criminal activity can't function.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:34 AM
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5. If there was a polar opposite of what the founding father wanted
John Yoo would occupy that position.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:37 AM
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8. And yet they still call us "commies". nt
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:34 AM
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6. What country was Mr. Yoo born in? It couldn't have been the USA. Or did he get home schooled by
Cheney?
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:39 AM
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9. He was actually born in South Korea...
he is an ass clown...
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Kagemusha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:42 AM
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10. What country he was born in is irrelevant.
Only the content of his views, content which sucks.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:35 AM
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7. Yoo means ''CRIMINAL Government'' can't function.
Hey, Yoo! Read the Constitution. This is a DEMOCRACY.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:55 AM
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13. This is classic BushCo: accuse us of what they are doing.
You might be interested in this recently WJ had on a shill who has written a book premised on the idea that Democrats infiltrated the CIA to smear BushCo.

lol



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And this is his previous offering:



The man in the cockpit fighting the war on terror. When terrorists crashed a plane into the Pentagon, he was there-helping carry the wounded to safety. And he's been there-leading the war on terror, directing its operations around the world in both open and covert missions, and bluntly focusing on one primary goal: killing terrorists. He is Donald Rumsfeld. His great fear was a second Pearl Harbor. When it happened on September 11, 2001, he led the charge to make sure it never happens again. This book takes you inside Rumsfeld's Pentagon, detailing the far-sighted, courageous decisions he has made to enable our military to fight this most unconventional of wars. Rowan Scarborough, veteran national security reporter for the Washington Times, has had access to Rumsfeld himself as well as to numerous never-before-released documents that show not only how Rumsfeld is fighting the war, but how he is fighting the bureaucracy and remaking the American military, shifting the focus from the ingrained "can't-do" bureaucracy to the special operations Green Berets, SEALs, and others who live by "can-do."

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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:43 AM
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11. "No One Thinks. . ." Really, Slick?
Well, i think that EVERYTHING in gov't should be an open book. So, there's at least one somebody who thinks that judges and clerks, congresscritters and staff conversations (etc.) should be aired publicly.

That makes Yoo's entire point invalid. Only someone stupid would make a statement so broad and so easy to deconstruct.
The Professor
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 11:51 AM
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12. Democracy only works when it is open to all
No hiding your actions if you want to call it a democracy.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:00 PM
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14. If It Can't Function With Transparency & Truth
it shouldn't be there at all, for it's not a democratic government it's a criminal conspiracy. Yoo needs to be arrested for sedition and as there is no habeas corpus to protect him, we needn't bother with a trial, or a lawyer, or any of the niceties of a democracy.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:06 PM
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15. Yeah I mean didn't our country's founders and the framers of the Constitution say that over & over?
Secrecy is the first requirement, and first object, of legitimate government!
I think it was Jefferson who came up with that slogan.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:25 PM
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16. Fool me once, shame on me...
Fool me twice, shame on Yoo!
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:26 PM
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17. We can function just fine without Yoo.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:46 PM
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18. Fools like Yoo are directing their words to fools - brainwashed ones.
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 12:47 PM by higher class
He doesn't fool 75% of the country. They found a winner with him - will go to any length for PNAC and the barons.

WILL FOO BE MADE AG if Gonzalez is removed?
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:48 PM
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19. hm, I thought he was busy chiseling out 4-year-olds' teeth
and pleasuring himself to pictures of the 1980 Gwangju Massacre
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LeftNYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:53 PM
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20. "crushing testicles" is ok to Yoo
as long as he understands why the President needs to crush said testicles...
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:54 PM
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21. Unless you are Secret Agent Valerie Plame.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-27-07 12:55 PM
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22. Newsflash, Mr. Yoo: Government 'function' is NOT the highest value in a democracy!!!
Edited on Fri Jul-27-07 12:57 PM by TahitiNut
While you may think that it's more important that the "trains run on time," the People under whose authority the government even exists have higher priorities and superior values!

It's about time you and your cronies began to comprehend the meaning of 'service' as used in "public service"!!

Yoo asshole! :grr:
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