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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 04:38 PM Original message |
In Defense of Making Comparisons of Certain People with Nazis or other Contemptible Groups |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. Gladly recommending. |
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whistle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck and looks like a duck, it's a duck |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
3. The Nazis didn't just jump straight to genocide.... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:00 AM Response to Reply #3 |
74. Exactly -- That's what scares me |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
126. What scares me is the incredible DENIAL |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #126 |
141. Yes indeed -- Accountability is key |
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Hong Kong Cavalier (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 04:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. K(ick) to the R(recommend) |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
5. A Billion More Words Still Wouldn't Make Comparing Them To Nazis Any Less Misguided. |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Bush is only one syllable and it begins with a b. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. So let me get this straight |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. "acknowledging the possibility" |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. Tell Ya What: Sincerely Acknowledge The Possibility That The Earth Is Only 5000 Years Old, |
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HCE SuiGeneris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. Nice ad populem... or perhaps an appeal to extremes |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. You readily recognize the ridiculousness of my post |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:27 AM Response to Reply #21 |
52. You have to recognize that we do have some Nazis |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
113. Yes. I'm A Nazi. Kudos To Your Amazing Intellect And Wisdom. We Should All Bow Down To Your |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #113 |
130. Not really. Just recognizing your reality. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 06:13 PM Response to Reply #130 |
136. Yes, Yes. I'm A Nazi. You've Got Me! Kudos Again To Your Amazing Powers Of Deduction! |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. Thank you. You can't speak for everyone else |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 10:41 PM Response to Reply #140 |
151. You Kidding? EVERYONE Worships You Now! You're The Holy Keeper Of Determining That Which Is Nazi! |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #151 |
152. You keep saying "we". I thought I was talking to you. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. We Is All Of Us! We All Worship You Now Cause You're The Holy Keeper Of Determining Who Is A Nazi! |
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Jack Sprat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:50 PM Response to Reply #154 |
157. Well, okay then. Carry on. |
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reichstag911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 05:33 PM Response to Reply #154 |
176. Nah, you're not a Nazi,... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. Yes, I See Your Screenname. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #19 |
88. so you are saying drawing parallels to incidents in the historical record |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
135. * is a lot more like Hitler... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 07:57 AM Response to Reply #15 |
73. Yeah, it's especially irksome to me when |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
86. the careless dismissal is just lame |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #86 |
99. And Then There Are Those, Like Me, Who Simply Call Out Premises Rooted In Stupidity. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #99 |
104. a premiss rooted in stupidity |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
85. your logic is flawed because OMC says so |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:41 AM Response to Reply #85 |
89. Yeah, I tried that |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
97. I've Given Some Arguments. But None Are Really Necessary. The Comparisons Are Dumb On Their Face. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #97 |
100. who's calling the administration nazis? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Are You Truly This Thick Headed? |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. please disabuse me of my error |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #97 |
121. "No real counter argument is really necessary in order for it to be shown to be silly or misguided." |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #9 |
120. HE DID NOT READ THE OP |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. I asked him if he read it |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 06:15 PM Response to Reply #120 |
137. Actually I Did. But Then, Imagine YOU Being Wrong. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:25 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. Imagine that |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:02 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. They are very much like the Nazis were, in the beginning |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. You Pretty Much Show Why The Argument Is Ridiculous. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. That doesn't make even a shred of sense. What, it's "Nazi's Greatest Hits" or nothing? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. It Made Perfect Sense. Do You Really Not Understand It? Wow. Not Sure What To Tell Ya. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:21 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. No, it didn't |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:47 AM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Of Course It Did. You Either Can't Grasp It Out Of Refusal To Do So, Or |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:32 AM Response to Reply #56 |
77. *OMC stamps feet, places hands over ears, goes "lalalalala..." and scuttles away* |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:29 AM Response to Reply #44 |
76. Perhaps in your world it makes perfect sense. But to anyone... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. The point is not to argue about technicalities |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Technicality? ROFLMAO!!! |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:13 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Maybe you finally got it |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:44 AM Response to Reply #49 |
55. Maybe You Don't. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 07:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
71. Let me explain it in terms that maybe you can understand |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:54 AM Response to Reply #55 |
92. are you so dense that you do not understand that when people say "bush is a nazi" |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. That's Not The Point Of The OP. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #95 |
96. no, it's a point that you have consistently made in this thread. and i'm not your pal |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:12 PM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Keep Comparing Them To Nazis Then. Be My Guest. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. does the opinion of the many really cut to the core for you? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #106 |
109. Not One Bit. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #109 |
110. so why present your arguments in those terms? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Now You're Just Being Silly. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. i guess you "Defeated Me" |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:50 PM Response to Reply #114 |
115. You Defeated Yourself. n/t |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #115 |
116. you're way too much fun |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Sorry, But I Won't Be Attending. |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. man, you're always on |
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Truth2Tell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 04:08 AM Response to Reply #48 |
70. akin to walking around stating you have a brain tumor cause you woke up with a headache |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:22 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Thank you |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:50 AM Response to Reply #29 |
91. do you know what the word "Nazi" is a truncation of? |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
102. Who Gives A Fuck. Everyone Knows What A Nazi Is And What The Term Represents. |
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Cha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
171. Nah, we're not Good |
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Capn Sunshine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:14 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. Maybe not, but the phrase "river In Egypt" should mean a lot to you. |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
119. Good point |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 06:16 PM Response to Reply #119 |
138. Yes, Yes, Lyny Skyny, They're All Nazis. Yup. Nazis. They're Nazis. |
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reichstag911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #138 |
177. Uh oh,... |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 06:28 PM Response to Reply #177 |
180. Bye! |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 06:29 PM Response to Reply #180 |
181. . |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 06:46 PM Response to Reply #181 |
183. .. / -.. --- -. .----. - / -... . .-.. .. . ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / .- -.-. - ..- .- .-.. .-.. -.-- |
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mudesi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #183 |
186. . |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #186 |
187. .. / -.- -. --- .-- / -.-- --- ..- / .-. . .- -.. / .. - / .-.. --- .-.. |
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Phredicles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 04:59 PM Response to Original message |
6. Really excellent, well-reasoned post - thank you! |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:50 AM Response to Reply #6 |
80. Magnificent indeed |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
8. I think you have it just right. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
82. Thank you -- studied extensively indeed |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
10. I think it is simple... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
31. Right here at home, the "less than" population of New Orleans... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #10 |
83. It seems as if Bush is following Hitler's blueprint, or else |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
11. I agree |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
90. I like that idea |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #90 |
124. I was thinking more in terms of |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
13. Nazi's a pretty strong word that brings about images of the Holocaust... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:07 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Holocaust was not the beginning of the Nazis, but the deeds of their later years |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. I'm not arguing on the simililarities...anyone familiar with the subject knows... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. bush*s granddad's history is in play since his bank dealings helped make the family $ |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:23 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Why? What will happen if we don't? n/t |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:56 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. People how fail to learn from history |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
59. So we're doomed because of asshole like Prescott Bush... |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #59 |
123. Have you completely overlooked what else happened in 1933? |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. "The argument will be lost as soon as the word 'Nazi' is mentioned no matter which side uses it." |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
60. As I said before... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 07:45 AM Response to Reply #60 |
72. Horrendous images |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. The word "Nazi" is a historical reference to a political machine... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:50 AM Response to Reply #28 |
63. I just disagree with using it as a way of comparison... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
133. It's your right to do as you wish. This is clearly a loaded issue for you. |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #14 |
36. Nazi refers to the National Socialist Workers Party of Germany.... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:53 AM Response to Reply #36 |
65. Oh, you're trying to educate me... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 02:53 AM Response to Reply #65 |
67. I doubt you were alive in 1892... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 02:57 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I may have been alive... |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 03:03 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. No problem, actually this shocked me when I ran across the info... |
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datasuspect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
93. the holocaust didn't gain significant traction until 1942 after the wannsee conference |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #93 |
190. Yes...yes...I've heard it before... |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
24. "Just do it!" |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. haha |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Oi |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Stay on the fake crime shows Fred! |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 10:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
150. Hey, he looks like Peter Boyle in Young Frankenstein! |
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hootinholler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:09 PM Response to Original message |
25. If you want the Nazi Nazis to read it, then it needs trimmed down. |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:52 AM Response to Reply #25 |
64. Trimmed down? Into sound bytes so a dumbed-down populace... |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
26. Of course they are Nazis |
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Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
33. I don't think the Bush/Hitler comparison is valid because they are different types of evil |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Don't underestimate him |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:28 AM Response to Reply #33 |
57. Bush was very aggressive and worked very hard at making a case for war with Iraq |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
34. A post with intelligence and great heart. Thank you. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Adolf Hitler left the world one very great gift... |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Quite so! I can say nothing more because you've said it all in two brief sentences! nt |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #38 |
128. Very well said Hubert |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
42. Thank you so much puebloknot |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. evil isn't so strange |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 11:25 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. George Washington was one exception to that |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #47 |
75. Read up on George |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:39 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. Yes, the Constitutional Convention wasn't smooth at all |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #78 |
155. You're right on that point |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:41 AM Response to Reply #42 |
58. My uncle was in the Bataan Death March ... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #58 |
143. Yeah, some people have that reaction to him -- I'm not a Christian |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
39. K&R... |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-27-07 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
41. America 2007 is Germany 1930 |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:46 AM Response to Reply #41 |
61. Good information. Thanks! nt |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
144. Interesting take |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:31 AM Response to Original message |
53. Hitler bombed Guernica two years before he invaded Poland |
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puebloknot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:49 AM Response to Reply #53 |
62. Kicking this into Saturday. This needs to be read. nt |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
145. It would be really great if, rather than dismissing comparisons like this as unpatriotic or whatever |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
54. Let's make it the 2008 Campaign Slogan: No More Nazis! |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:55 AM Response to Original message |
66. NEVER AGAIN n/t |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
79. There's also family history. bush's family has a history of Nazi sympathy. |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Here is the story about the Bush/Hitler link...(note the sources) |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. If you do a search, you will see that AP reported this as did the UK Guardian. nt |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. From the UK Guardian- How Bush's grandfather helped Hitler's rise to power |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #87 |
105. Some other good reading... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:01 PM Response to Reply #81 |
94. Maybe that is why Cheney went to Auschwitz. He wanted to see |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #94 |
107. I wouldn't doubt it a bit... |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 02:56 PM Response to Reply #107 |
127. He went there for ideas. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 01:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
125. The arrogance is truly stunning, eh? |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
98. "Mafia" would be a better anaology. The Bush regime is in this for themselves |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 09:55 PM Response to Reply #98 |
146. Perhaps -- but what's the difference between the Nazis and the mafia? |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
108. A related thread was started in the Wisconsin Forum and positive participation is encouraged. |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 03:56 PM Response to Original message |
129. excellent excellent post , thank you very much!!! when we ignore history |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 10:01 PM Response to Reply #129 |
147. Thank you -- I hope your son very much appreciates your efforts in that regard |
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DaveT (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
131. A Comparison Does Not Claim To Be Identical |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. When my octogenarian neighbors |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 10:08 PM Response to Reply #131 |
148. Yes indeed -- well said |
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flyarm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 02:51 AM Response to Reply #131 |
160. absolutely...i was at the museum in Normandy two yrs ago with my son |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
134. Yeah. The phrase "You can't compare x to y" is usually followed... |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 06:26 PM Response to Original message |
139. why all this sucking up to the right wing? |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
149. Reducio ad Hitlerum |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #149 |
163. No, it's more like this: |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #163 |
169. I think it would probably be more like this. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #169 |
173. Tell me, in what way is anything that I said in my OP inaccurate? |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #173 |
175. Well, for starters... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 06:23 PM Response to Reply #175 |
178. For starters |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #178 |
185. So what you are saying is... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 09:45 PM Response to Reply #185 |
188. If you think the point of my post was to lambast Bush you didn't read my post very carefully |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. Right, so you are using the Nazi comparison is a strictly academic endevour... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 07:31 AM Response to Reply #189 |
191. I'm not saying that BushCo ARE Nazis -- and I've made that very clear |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #191 |
192. "How many people do you think we've killed at Guantanamo..." |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #192 |
194. All you can do is repeatedly restate that things were worse under the Nazis than they are here |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. And, all you can do is cherry pick facile similarities... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-31-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #195 |
196. By your reasoning we should just throw away all the history books |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 06:38 PM Response to Reply #175 |
182. So why single out Hitler and the Nazis out for comparison? |
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LostInAnomie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 07:43 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. Yeah, they really held sway over FDR and Truman. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jul-30-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #184 |
193. Dude, you're so deep in denial |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
153. We interrupt this program to bring you this important message |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #153 |
164. Interesting and revealing story |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #164 |
168. There is evidence of that |
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Beerboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
156. I tried to give this rec. 43, |
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sammythecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 12:19 AM Response to Reply #156 |
159. I'm too late to the party to recommend |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-28-07 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
158. While I am too late to recommend this, |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #158 |
165. Thank you bleever -- Let us hope, as you say, that the decency of most Americans |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 06:42 AM Response to Original message |
161. My Grandparents escaped Nazi Germany.... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. "the comparison is not of "the Holocaust itself" it is of the manner in which |
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DaveT (447 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 02:06 PM Response to Reply #166 |
170. I sadly doubt that. |
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Agnostic_Jihad (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
162. An interesting and well argued post, but.. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #162 |
174. Oh? |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jul-29-07 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
167. Anyone who is knowledgeable about the rise of the Third Reich |
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172. Thanks for your well studied, |
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