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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:00 PM
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Why is Iraq in Chaos? NO END IN SIGHT Learn the Truth! 7/27
How can you fight if you don't recognize the warning



http://www.noendinsightmovie.com/



http://www.ericblumrich.com/

Much has been said about the war in Iraq, especially how we were so horribly misled into it. Robert Greenwald and Michael Moore, among many others, have done an excellent job in translating this painful episode in our recent history into film.

One would think that after a dozen or so excellent (and a few dozen not-so-excellent) films, the subject had been tapped dry. When I got a review DVD of "No End In Sight," I sighed to myself: "What- ANOTHER one of these?" What else can be said, really?

A hell of a lot, as I soon found out.

This film is the first that I've seen that, rather than focusing on the chicanery during the lead up and immediate aftermath of the invasion, covers the long, sorry history of our occupation of Iraq- and it's a story so stained with blind arrogance and grotesque incompetence that it baffles the mind.

It's important to note that the film's cast of commentators isn't the rogue's gallery of antiwar liberals you'd normally expect in such a film. The damning evidence this film presents is related by the likes of former Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, US Ambassador Barbara Bodine, Major General Paul Eaton, General Jay Gardner, Walter Slocombe, and Col. Paul Huges (among many others.) These are, as the film's website boasts, "The ultimate Insiders." These were people who had a front-row seat to the debacle that is our adventure in Iraq.

No- scratch that word: "Debacle." Replace it with "Irreversible shitstorm."

It has become the de-rigeur defense of the remaining 25% who support the war to say "All you lib'ruls can do is second-guess." The antiwar majority is accused of playing "monday morning quarterback." "It's easy to just sit back and criticize," we're told...

Indeed, it is easy to sit back and criticize:

Item: When Baghdad fell, and the city devolved into an orgy of chaotic looting, not only were we unprepared for it, our troops were given express orders not to interfere. Thus, we showed the people of the newly-conquered country of Iraq that we were unwilling or unable to exercise authority.

Item: Instead of immediately turning over power to an interim Iraqi government, we installed a Provisional Authority. In the staff of this imposed government, only a handful could speak arabic, and even fewer had any experience that would prepare them for their new positions. This new government was not only incapable of communicating with the Iraqi people, it was incapable of governing them.

Item: This Provisional authority put 23-year-old white kids who had just graduated from Ivy League universities in charge of entire Iraqi government agencies. It didn't matter that they had zero knowledge of what they were doing- what mattered was the fat check the kid's father had sent to the republican party.

Item: Paul Bremer decided to disband the Iraqi army, which resulted in a half-million heavily armed men roaming the country, looking for their next meal. Keep in mind, until Bremer decreed thusly, the higher echelons of the existing Iraqi army were ready and willing to help secure the country under US supervision.

Item: "De- Ba'athification" fired everyone who had any links with the former ruling party, even though a majority had joined simply out of a sense of self-preservation. This effectively barred 100,000 of Iraq's most educated and influential people from taking any role in Iraq's reconstruction.

Item: These examples are but the tip of the iceberg.

What's especially frustrating, is that these insane decisions were challenged- not by liberal whackos like you and I, but by highly-experienced, knowledgeable military and civilian experts from within the administration. At every turn, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bremer, and the usual suspects were warned that they were screwing the pooch, but they ignored these warnings, and just kept on making horrible decisions- no matter how many times they were proven wrong.

Bush, when he enters the picture, is blissfully and willfully ignorant of what's going on.

After watching this film, I felt drained, and saddened. It paints a picture of a monolithic arrogance that almost strikes one dumb with wonder (and that's sayin' something, considering I've been studying this nest of vipers for well on to a decade.)

If it's showing in your town, I can't think of a better way to spend a few bucks and a few hours. However, If you're a recovering alcoholic, I'd stay away- after viewing this, you'll want to blot out everything you've just seen...



It's more horrible and sad than you could imagine.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:14 PM
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1. A Direct Hit on Iraq War Makers
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 04:16 PM by seemslikeadream
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/27/AR2007072700139.html?hpid=topnews

'No End in Sight,' A Direct Hit on Iraq War Makers

By Stephen Hunter
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, July 27, 2007; Page C04

The script of Charles Ferguson's "No End in Sight" would certainly be in the hands of prosecutors in the event of impeachment hearings. The documentary is a furious, if quietly stated, indictment of the president and all his men in re the debacle that our adventure in Iraq has turned into. Ferguson builds a compelling case of bad judgment, error, stubbornness, arrogance, all of it adding up to a mess with no end in sight.

It's also, most impressively, an evocation of that horror. Astutely edited by Chad Beck and Cindy Lee, it assembles a depressing cascade of imagery from the war: the tanks pulling through the dusty, ancient towns; the young Americans scooting through the ruins in their Terminator shades; optics-festooned plastic rifles, looking for targets as the children and women flee; the detonation of a roadside bomb with its surreal combination of speed and energy; and, of course, the talking heads, who talk, then talk some more, then talk still more, that is, if they'll talk at all. (Wolfowitz, Bremer and Rumsfeld wouldn't; all are represented in archival footage.)


What we're left with, thankfully, is no psych-ward collection of nut-case radicals so unhinged by Bush's temerity that they dilate their nostrils and spray saliva and throb in their veins and arteries like creatures from another planet. No word of impeachment is broached, no partisan politics are referred to, and the usual subjects or frequent critics are nowhere in sight.

Instead, Ferguson, a Brookings scholar and software entrepreneur, has rounded up some unusual suspects. Mostly mid-level bureaucrats who served in the occupation and watched in horror as the chaos doubled and redoubled and nearly everyone became infected with nihilism and dread, they form an effective set of witnesses because they don't seem instinctively anti-Bush. Their attitude isn't the unearned moral superiority of people who never risked anything, but more a kind of melancholy of what is but what didn't have to be. To be sure, some of the complaints are common to all bureaucracies, military-diplomatic or plastic manufacturing or newspaper publishing: My supervisors didn't pay any attention to me; they made policy based on unrealistic wishful thinking; they wouldn't admit mistakes; they blundered ahead, going from bad to worse. Of this group, the diplomat Barbara Bodine and an early on-the-ground executive, retired Lt. Gen. Jay Garner, seem by far the most impressive and the least partisan. They are also, in some ways, the saddest. One of them -- I name no names -- seems a little self-dramatizing.



http://www.pbs.org/now/shows/316/index.html

NOW
No End in Sight
Did America's mistakes create the Iraqi insurgency?


Nearly four years after President Bush declared an end to combat in Iraq, the country is still fraught with daily casualties, costly commitments, and an ongoing debate on how to end the violence. How did it come to this?

This week, NOW's David Brancaccio speaks with two very different, but unforgettable men who allege that U.S. bungling in Iraq created and fueled the deadly insurgency. Paul Hughes, a retired Army colonel, was part of the transition team after the U.S. invasion of Iraq. He says key decisions were made that ignored the realities of Iraq. Omar Fekeiki was a Washington Post reporter and translator who risked his life to help U.S. journalists.


Both Hughes and Fekeiki are featured in a new Sundance prize-winning documentary, "No End in Sight," which exposes what it calls "a chain of critical errors, denial, and incompetence that has galvanized a violent quagmire." Fekeiki's identity was hidden in the documentary for his protection, but he chose to appear unmasked on NOW for the first time.


http://www.pbs.org/now/transcript/316.html
Transcript - April 20, 2007

BRANCACCIO: Welcome to NOW.

If you are like me, you have already consumed an enormous amount of news from Iraq; but once in a while something comes along that connects dots and makes you really understand. That was the prevailing reaction of those who got to see a documentary about Iraq that won a special jury prize at the Sundance Film Festival. The doc doesn't focus on the decision to go to war in Iraq. Instead, it dissects policy decisions by senior Bush administration officials who bet the future of Iraq and, it can be argued, bet the future of America's foreign relations on a flawed assumption: the expectation that it would be a relative cakewalk for the us once Saddam Hussein was toppled from power.

Mistakes were made, as the saying goes, and they are discussed in shocking detail in the documentary film, "No End in Sight." It's a cavalcade of hard-working and smart diplomats, on- the-ground military leaders and Iraqis who feel frustrated by the lack of resources and dismayed by orders they were being handed from Washington.

Among that group was Paul Hughes, a U.S. army colonel who was the head of policy in Baghdad under Jay Garner during America's first occupation team. Hughes stayed on when Paul Bremer took over and formed the coalition provisional authority. Back then, Hughes was aghast to hear a Bush official predict that in just a few months 80 percent of the us troops in Iraq would be able to go home.

HUGHES: I heard him say that in a room full of people and I turned to my colleague and said "this guy doesn't know what he's talking about... it's physically impossible."

BRANCACCIO: As part of the PBS strand of coverage this week called "America at a Crossroads" I sat down to talk with Colonel Hughes.

BRANCACCIO: Colonel Hughes, welcome.

HUGHES: Good to be here.

BRANCACCIO: We see you in the film expressing this profound skepticism that the US would be able to get its troops in and out of Iraq so quickly after the invasion. That's very easy to see now, but were you worried about being undermanned after the invasion?

HUGHES: We had done studies of our involvement in the Balkans, and we recognized that we needed many more soldiers on the ground—in the post-conflict phase—than what was being allocated to us.

The people who managed the Department of Defense didn't place much stock in military advice. And hence, things that were stated by senior officials—military officials with 35-plus years of active duty in the defense of this country, when they say, "We're gonna need a lot more soldiers than you're anticipating—" they dismissed it, because he's the old guy. He doesn't get it.

BRANCACCIO: For instance, the national security directive that puts the—management of post-invasion Iraq into the hands of the Defense Department, as opposed to say, the State Department.

HUGHES: National Security Directive 24, which established the post-war planning office within the Secretary of Defense's office. Completely took the Department of State out of the picture.

BRANCACCIO: And it's fair to say the Department of State had done some research into the challenges of—of—a post-war Iraq.

HUGHES: Yes, they had. Absolutely, for the previous year and a half to two years, they'd been conducting a project called "The Future of Iraq Studies."

And so, when I was assigned to the Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance, or what we called ORHA, under Jay Garner in the Pentagon—I tried to bring in people from the Department of State.

We did get the—the director of that study tasked over to us. He remained for four days, and then Secretary Rumsfeld told Jay that he had to fire him, send him back-

BRANCACCIO: But, also, nobody, America, certainly not Iraq wanted to have happen what happened soon after the invasion, which was, because of a—apparently a power vacuum, the destructive looting that sweeps the country. You also had not enough—US troops—available to—for instance, safeguard ammunition dumps.

HUGHES: People were getting in all over the place, stealing things, because we didn't have enough soldiers there for it.

BRANCACCIO: This affects this whole thing with improvised exploded devices that—would crop up later.

HUGHES: Absolutely. Absolutely. The IEDs began with—artillery shells that were being wired together—singularly—being detonated. And they have now progressed, as you would expect an opponent in war to do.

BRANCACCIO: So, soon after this—watershed moment for Iraq, when Saddam was toppled, the military is defeated, is this other unplanned watershed moment, the looting and the destruction, and the film makes the argument that this is—this is seed of doubt that starts to creep into the Iraqi psyche. The idea that, "Why aren't the Americans protecting us?"

RUMSFELD: The images you are seeing on TV you are seeing over and over and over. And it's the same picture of some person walking out of some building with a vase

BODINE: I think that was probably the day we lost the Iraqis

RUMSFELD: And you think, my goodness, were there that many vases? Is it possible that there were that many vases in the whole country?

BRANCACCIO: And then, as things evolve in Baghdad, a series of key decisions that it is argued in the film, have radically altered prospects for Iraq in their wake. Number one, big decision, stop the early formation of an Iraqi government. Was that—did you worry about that decision?

HUGHES: Absolutely, because, at that particular point in time, we had raised the bar of expectation for the Iraqi people. They were thinking, "Hey, we're gonna be able to participate in a government." This is something they had never been able to do. They didn't know exactly how to do it, but they were anticipating a new day. And then, suddenly, it stops. And—they're questioning the Americans, like, "Don't you really know what you're doing here?"

BRANCACCIO: Big decision number two, get rid of—the members of the Ba'th party from positions of responsibility in the Iraqi bureaucracy. Makes some sense, gotta get rid of the Nazis after World War II from the German government.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:34 PM
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2. I really want to see this,
I just don't want to drive to Pasadena or Hollywood!
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 04:48 PM
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3. I read the book "Fiasco".
There is no better word to describe the Illegal Invasion and Illegal US Occupation of Iraq. The Impeachment of Bush & Cheney will probably not happen because the Dems in Congress hide behind the excuse that the Senate will not vote "Guilty" on the charges.I believe that it shouldn't matter if that is their prediction. Impeachment would at the very least display to America & the World that a criminal Regime seized power in America and that the Congress at least is attempting to restore Democracy to the USA.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:48 PM
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4. Video
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:56 PM
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5. How long before a DVD? Is there any way to get it in more cities?
:shrug:
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 05:06 PM
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7. In the media section DEMOCRATICUNDERGROUND is listed!
Edited on Sun Jul-29-07 05:08 PM by seemslikeadream
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 04:57 PM
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6. This looks really good!
Thanks!
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 05:07 PM
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8. npr link
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 06:06 PM
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9. There was no exit straegy on Iraq because we're not supposed to leave
wars are designed to be continued, not ended! (sorry)
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 06:18 PM
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10. Perhaps a major attack within the green-zone would expose how badly
this civil war has grown to?
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Bolo Boffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 07:00 PM
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11. Whassamatta? You didn't like my thread on this movie?
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:10 PM
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12. Kick for Truth.
Sorry I didn't see this sooner.

Thanks 'Dreamy!
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Decruiter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-29-07 08:22 PM
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13. Kick for those just "waking up."
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