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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:17 PM Original message |
Are the people fighting NATO in Afghanistan "Terrorists"? |
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jeff30997 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. I agree a 100 %! |
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pwb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes, anyone who is killed is a terrorist |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. People who take non-combatant hostages can safely be called terrorists. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. How are you able to "safely" claim that? |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. People who commit crimes for the purpose of instilling fear in those who oppose them. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. I'm sorry, but that is a nonsensical definition. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. "Terrorist" is meaningless, because its overused and misused? Bullshit. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Ok fine, it has meaning. What I meant to say is it has LOST meaning |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I'll answer that: |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Why? n/t |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Why is it wrong to kidnap and murder civilians ? |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Don't be silly. Why is it considered "terrorism". |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. It strikes me that you're the one that isn't playing straight here |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. I've not said that kidnapping and killing of civilains is not wrong.... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. rape isn't terrorism? |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:48 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. No, rape is not terrorism. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 09:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Bosnia, Post-war Berlin, The Sudan |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 12:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Rape is often an instrument of war, yes. Is rape "terrorism" though? No. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:53 AM Response to Reply #38 |
43. Rape as an instrument of war is used to control and |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Anyone can be called a patriot. |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Were people who fought for the Soviet Union against the Nazi invasion patriots? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
7. If he was, as you indicate, referring to those who |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 04:46 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Why? n/t |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. I see three possibilities: |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You're not following this. WHY are they terrorists? n/t |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. What point did I miss? |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. It seems to be your logic that they are terrorists because you do not what else to call them..n/t |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 08:59 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. If the goal is to communicate with the general public, then one |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 09:05 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Put the text book away and tell me this: is every criminal a terrorist now? |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. There are many criminals who are not terrorists. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 12:30 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. And there are many combatants in Afghanistan who are not terrorists. That's the point. n/t |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Since when is the killing of an unarmed civilian hostage an act of combat? |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:31 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Since when is the killing of an unarmed civilian hostage an act of terrorism? |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. Maybe since 1988? See below. |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. So, if someone kidnaps a movie star's child and demands a ransome, and kills the kid |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:57 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. It sounds as though you consider "for idiosyncratic, criminal or political reasons" |
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TygrBright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:29 PM Response to Original message |
15. Anyone who fights NATO is a terrorist. Or an evil-doer. Or something really, really bad. Get it? |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. The sarcasm is not helpful. n/t |
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kcr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:39 PM Response to Original message |
19. You are not correct |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. "The opposition in Afghanistan appears to consist largely of two groups, the Taliban and Al Queda." |
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kcr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 05:56 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. Aside from reality and common sense? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. What about Northern Alliance |
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spindoctor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:06 PM Response to Original message |
28. In Holland they are consistently referred to as Taliban |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. "One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. " |
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spindoctor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 07:03 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. It's a common phrase |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #30 |
45. A couple of questions |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Sep-02-07 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
37. btw, |
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Harper_is_Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #37 |
41. Ok. So what is your definition of terrorism? Who are "terrorists"? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:50 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. There are state actors who practice terrorism and |
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