Scott Ritter on C-Span2. Should be good.

He is talking about bush beating Iran war drums.

saw it this morning

n/t

Rally around educating the American public on the Constitution! Plain and simple.

How Cindy blew it. And how we need to grab the spotlight, and keep it.

We need to think about how middle America will see our antiwar actions. How Cindy meeting with Hugo lost that middle America. The firefighters, who are a fairly conservative bunch.

He's saying we need a plan to gain the support of the greatest number of supporters.

when identifying how "misused" Cindy Sheehan has been by the fringe groups. They pulled her away from the center for their own agenda...she is burned out now.

She could possibly regain her message if she were managed by someone who care...like me. O8)

Israel was telling us not to go to war with Iraq, but with Iran. And we said the best way to get to Iran was through Baghdad.

Oh man. Does this ever put things in perspective.

We're doing this for Israel. AND Iran really might be next.

It's such bullshit that Israel controls U.S. foreign policy, and btw, the article about how Israel told us not to go to war, did not say that they advocated an attack on Iran. They may be advocating it now, but even so, that doesn't mean we're going to war for Israel.

He said he was the liaison to Israel's intelligence. He had the inside information.

I know we can't believe everything someone says. I'll admit that. I like a lot of what Scott says. And especially coming from a Marine background. That means he had to come a long long way to arrive at this position.

the line that AIPAC/Israel is dictating our foreign policy. Not to mention that common sense itself should come into play here. Yes, AIPAC influences our gov't. So does Israel itself. That's a far different thing from saying Israel controls our foreign policy.

Explain why that is.

And that Iran really isn't a threat.

He's right. What the hell did we invade Conyer's office for?

We need to get strategic about things. The antiwar movement is at war. We have to huddle and formulate a tactic.

Would this be a good bumpersticker?


Man, I really like Scott.

He's saying they stole the American flag from us. And it doesn't belong to Bush. It belongs to we the people. It's ours.

Citizen participation in this democracy is at the heart of the troubles we see today.

our participation anyone--except for our vote to legitimize the process. Clearly Congress serves another master besides the American voter.

our kids are off to college. We threw out so much junk from years of consumer driven Christmas and birthdays. Absolute junk, probably mostly from deplorable sweat shops. We are at a complete shame faced loss to explain it. We decided to try to get our kids to better with their kids. I also regret every cd (lp before that) and dvd (vhs) I ever bought. We're also finally looking a bit closer at the food we buy. At least we don't drive an suv.

So true, we have 3 Dem candidates that are being considered for the presidency! The others don't count. No corporate backing.....

Support the troops?

He's saying we need to be careful to not let the military define us. War is destructive.


Scott Ritter is my guy. He's seen the light. He has an open mind that let him break out of the Marine mentality.

into war, not beating the war drum on CNN, etc. with trumpets blaring" So true. War is not something to aspire to, war is to avoid if at all possible.

It should be re-run overnight, and available after that at C-Span.org.

Wonderful hearing him again.

He's saying that every time Bush utters 9/11 it's actually a legal statement. He's linking terrorism with his plans of war.

Oh damn, there's too much. You all must see this.


I'm all but a pacifist, and I absolutely love and support Scott Ritter.

He explained everything. What I found the most astonishing was what he said about Israel, Iraq and Iran.

"Basically we have to give up all of our freedoms for our security?"

Suicided.

see this interview. Earlier today they had Robert Dallek discussing his book and how the Nixon and Bush administration are so terribly scary alike - Viet Nam - Iraq..... lies upon lies

Only c-span junkies will watch, afterall, football is all over the channels. They ignored Ritter and ridiculed him before the Iraq invasion so they are not worried about anyone listening to that "crazy" man now.

The problem is the talking heads would make snide remarks about his interviews, sometimes saying he was disputing his own statements from past reporting without any proof. The usual trashing of anyone that had something negative to say about invading Iraq. It's called twisting the truth.

We the consumers. We must become good citizens. We must learn and stand up.

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This is where I agree with him the most. And it's not just about freedom, war, democracy, media, but it's about global warming, population. But that probably unfocuses the thinking here.

The war is our fault.
Murdoch is our fault.

Take the Constitution. It belongs to us.

This is critically important for everyone to realize. I see this exactly the same way Scott Ritter does.

We are in control.

We never had to believe Fox news. But so many did. That's just one example. But the bottom line is we are in control here.

How do you compete with all that corporate money? He said don't shop or spend your money at companies that are right wingers. One must search the internet to find stores that don't make money from the repub. rules of "no rules" for corporations. That repub freedom to screw the people, buyer beware philosophy.

In other words, how can protests work now days? Like he said, the media reports a million people protested the war - for one day. Then the story disappeared. At that moment I visualized a group of a thousand or more stationed in front of the White House for months, years until we get out of Iraq, for instance, throw in the FISA, Getmo, wire taps, with a rotating bunch of people just to keep the numbers up there. The media would have to take notice, like Cindy in Crawford.

I wasn't duped by anything Bush or his administration said. Nor what Fox news said. In fact I never even watched Fox because I was repulsed by it. However, at the time I didn't even know why I was repulsed. And this is where it may be more difficult than I think. Common sense may be endowed by our parents, our environment. I went to a junior high that exhibited more brain power than the typical American I see these days. That might not make sense. What I'm really saying is something that we've all heard in the hip hop tune by Public Enemy. Not that using a musical metaphor is worth a damn. But "Don't believe the hype".

If people simply didn't believe the lies, the rest would follow. Like Mark Crispin Miller was saying. He wanted Ritter to include election fraud in his scope of writing and thinking. But Ritter said that by simply knowing and upholding the Constitution, things like Diebold were moot. The rest followed.

So I believe that it's just simple common sense. And the boycotts just naturally follow. I am a walking boycott. Although I did just buy a Dell, damn me!

Skepticism and common sense. Where is it?

You know, I have a sister who I hardly know. But I do know she's not particularly involved in politics. During the week after 9/11, she said something I'll never forget. She said the moment those towers came down, she knew Bush did it. I know that's way off target here. But it's on the other end of the spectrum from what we see in the American public. A high level of skepticism.

It's what I do every day, multiplied by 300 million, that makes this country tick. It's me. It's you. It's us. Not Fox. Not Bush. They have our approval. They have our eyes and ears, but only if we let them.