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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 02:25 PM Original message |
Chavez says he could govern until 2027 |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
1. 3..2..1..for someone to come along to this thread and say that the media messed up the translation |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. K&R #1, yaas, we death squad leaders just keep TWISTING San Hugo's words!!1 n/t |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
93. COME on you peeps, let's kick (and especially RECOMMEND) this!!1 n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Are you bilingual? Even without being bilingual, it's not hard to find |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #1 |
116. Why would it be a problem with the translation? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. "could" .."if voters do away with". |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yeah, "Democracy" works so well for us, they really should try it! |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. So until |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #4 |
30. Perfection?! |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #30 |
61. Why not address the question |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
76. I agree. This planet is smaller every day. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
89. The problem with "discussing" other countries is: |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:58 PM Response to Reply #89 |
95. Why discuss? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:07 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. Who is saying don't discuss Venezuela? |
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MonkeyFunk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:12 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. unfounded BS? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:27 AM Response to Reply #100 |
112. I wasn't referred to the skewed AP article but to the numerous |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
5. I looked for the article... |
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poverlay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
6. I hope not. If the reform he's pushing has a chance it'll have to stand the test of executive |
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Snarkturian Clone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
7. ah jeez |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. Yaas, after the world ends in 2012, San Hugo will be ruling on and on!!1 n/t |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:02 PM Response to Reply #8 |
96. Kick n/t |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
9. He has to be elected each time, though |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:29 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Pointing out that people would have to actually vote for him is downright unAmerican. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. And he can be recalled halfway through each term |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. Right on time. |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
14. " "I need more time in the presidency to finish this. We are only beginning," |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Sure, because the corporate media runs a minimun of 2 hit pieces |
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Balbus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
15. Venezuela? |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:41 PM Response to Original message |
16. President For Life |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:44 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. As if was possible in the Venezuelan system. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I think anything is possible |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. Please show us how Chavez is a dictator run amok. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. Rule by Decree |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. There is no "rule by degree". He was given limited power to |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:33 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. mmmkay |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:35 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. That's the best you can do? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. It really IS the best they can do. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Theres nothing more to say |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. But you haven't said anything of substance yet. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. see above |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
68. You've made no case. And no, I will not back off from propaganda. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. see above |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Give it up. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
70. I DID give up |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. Maybe because you keep responding to us. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. murloc, if this seemed to you to be a personal attack, I'm sorry. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:58 PM Response to Reply #18 |
90. I see X # of threads per week that say * is planning to extend his pResidency through Martial Law. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
21. These Chavez threads are almost |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
22. Once you get rid of the opposition TV, radio, and newspapers |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:50 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. They didn't get rid of opposition TV, radio, or newspapers |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Is that what they call it now "broadcasting violations" or "trying to overthrow the government"? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. If you google this topic for 30 seconds, you'd find that FAIR |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Give it up. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:34 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. Why are "progressives" so pre-disposed to just drink the crappy |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. I don't know.It's almost pathological. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. LOL! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. And he turned me into a newt! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Green is my very favorite color. |
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killbotfactory (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
72. They turned their channel into a 24-hour call for the overthrow of the Venezuelan government |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. That didn't happen. Check your facts. n/t |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #22 |
45. exactly |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. I'm still waiting for you to show us how he is a dictator. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I thought you rested your case? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #58 |
65. I'd still like to see evidence of YOUR case. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
24. Lots of wishful reading going on here. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
26. I'm tagging this thread so I can read the inevitable debunking. |
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BuyingThyme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Their president wants the same privilege as our Congress. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 03:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Sometimes I think that having a strong progressive leader |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. I read as many of these threads as I could when they started to pop up. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Bingo. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. I stopped engaging in debate with these people. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. I can hardly blame them because there is a sh!T storm of propaganda |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
77. and it's the same 7-8 people, every time.. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
32. Associated Press Falsely Portrays Chavez as Seeking 25-Year Term |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
35. Here's some other evidence of Chavez consuming desire |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
38. Hopefully The People Won't Tolerate It And Will Unseat Him. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. "Like the rest of them"?! |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #40 |
44. "Please do some reading and stop embarrassing yourself in this way." |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #40 |
91. Yes, Like The Rest Of Them. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:10 PM Response to Reply #91 |
99. I've read your post three times looking for one fact. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. If they can |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Ms Clio, is that you? |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. No. I'm not clio |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:45 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Then more than one of you need an eye exam. |
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murloc (381 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. I know people who say the exact opposite |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. You might want to do some searching on your own. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. Well rush right down and save them from themselves! |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
79. the more you tighten your grip, tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 08:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
92. Yup. He's Already Kicking Out Anyone Who Disagrees With Him, So God Only Knows What Else He Has In |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. LOL! Who is he kicking out? That's a new one. |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:29 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. You Really Don't Know? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:00 AM Response to Reply #103 |
108. What a cop out,dude. |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 04:58 PM Response to Original message |
75. Okay, I'm finally going to make a statement about Chavez |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. He can't institute a lifetime rule. The people have to vote on it |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #78 |
80. I'm not saying he's cramming it down their throats |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:23 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. How is that proposal undemocratic if it requires a VOTE? |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:29 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. Did I *say* we invented democracy? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:41 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. What if Chavez did something undemocratic? |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:52 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. I'm not going into fits |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:15 PM Response to Reply #88 |
101. What part of popular vote is unclear to you? |
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rockymountaindem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:29 AM Response to Reply #101 |
107. You're completely missing my point |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:51 AM Response to Reply #107 |
117. I'm not missing your point, you are, lol. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Forget it. |
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Mutineer (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
84. He's a dictator in the making. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:44 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. So,how are you different? |
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Mutineer (659 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #85 |
111. Since you like Chavez so much |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #111 |
121. declare himself president for the next 20 years? |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #111 |
129. You don't even your facts right. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 05:46 PM Response to Reply #84 |
86. I want to see either your license as a fortuneteller or your cancelled check |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
94. ALL San Hugo followers want to SILENCE (me or) dissenters!!1 n/t |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:18 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. All your anti-Chavistas are belong to me!!!!!111 |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #94 |
109. I'd say that was great satire if only it had been. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
104. Good... I Like Chavez, And He Should Govern As Long As... |
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angstlessk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
105. Key word here is 'could'...being voted in by the people...sorry |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #105 |
115. Bush was elected twice. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #115 |
119. No one can prove that Bush was ever elected. n/t |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. I can, pretty easily. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. That's not proof, that's codification of a fiction. n/t |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #124 |
126. No, it's not. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. We were speaking specifically of Bush's "election"/ |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:30 PM Response to Reply #128 |
131. I don't think you understand what "election" means. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:10 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. I don't think you understand what "election" means. |
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Horseradish (98 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Sep-03-07 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
106. Just a sub-thread ... |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
110. I'm more concerned about * attempting to govern until 2027... (n/t) |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
113. It's been interesting watching his supporters here, |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Please amplify your claim that Chavez is consolidating power. n/t |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:00 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Here. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. The State Department? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. Your authority is the same government that tried to have him |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:17 PM Response to Reply #125 |
127. You have failed to combat the claims. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:09 PM Response to Reply #127 |
132. Google is your friend. Go read the FAIR assessment. Or here: |
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leaninglib (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
114. I don't think so. |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
130. "Politicians and diapers need to be changed regularly for the same reasons" - anonymous |
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