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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:13 AM Original message |
Can we please stop the nasty anti-doctor posts here? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
1. Good luck. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. I gotta try, though, right? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
2. My life has been saved a few times in the last couple years |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
3. The scapegoating of physicians is remarkable. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
167. Perhaps. But notice that in polls indicateing levels of |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #167 |
218. Please give her a hug from me. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #218 |
259. She knew third year was going to be hell. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #259 |
278. Hubby took a break, too. |
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tblue37 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:50 PM Response to Reply #218 |
261. Oh, about the care packages with good food-- |
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w8liftinglady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
4. I've worked with some very caring doctors |
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area51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
5. k&r (n/t) |
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coffeenap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
6. Yep, and let me say the same about dentists. There are bad ones, |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
93. Thank God for dentists! |
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tired_old_fireman (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
7. There a lot of prolific posters on here that don't speak to the majority. |
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sneakythomas (89 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:26 AM Response to Original message |
8. Thank you |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
9. I'm engaged to a third-year med student. |
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Corgigal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
10. Cop's wife here |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:42 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. A nod to you and your cop husband as well. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
20. Doc's wife here. I know what you are feeling. The level of nastiness is astonishing. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #20 |
36. Well, unfortunately |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
23. As bad as the anti-doctor rhetoric is, the anti-cop stuff is so much worse. |
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Felinity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Here's the problem |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:31 PM Response to Reply #28 |
95. Of course you have to be careful. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
257. Well said. When people's jobs essentially give them the |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #10 |
86. After some of the threads I read last week slamming cops... |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
94. My stepbrother's a cop. Thank you for being a cop's wife. |
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StarryNite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #10 |
142. As the wife of a retired cop |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #142 |
229. I always try to defend them. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
260. I did a cop rant recently, meant it against specific ones, not in general |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
11. Agreed |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
12. There are bad doctors out there and they should be weeded out. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
96. Amen they need to be weeded out. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #96 |
161. That will change when the doctors themselves no longer protect the bad apples. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:29 PM Response to Reply #161 |
219. The former teacher in me doesn't like to see it happen to anyone. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #219 |
294. As a person in poverty, I can assure you that "bashing" is NOT banned |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #294 |
301. Oh, I know! |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:03 PM Response to Reply #301 |
306. "Why is it, if someone's in hard times, it's considered okay to say some nasty stuff about him or |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #306 |
307. This should be a post all on its own. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
13. Thank you, enemy is the Health Insurers not the Doctors or Nurses (n/t) |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
14. I concur and empathize; however IMO the AMA has done more |
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ryanus (511 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
15. "anti-doctor"? Maybe we are a little oversensitive |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. Respectfully, I suggest you visit the "Mandatory Check-up" thread. |
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AnneD (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:49 PM Response to Reply #22 |
171. There has been more than a few... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
187. Read the rest of this thread. You may notice some who are. eom |
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progressoid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
16. Yesiree |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
18. I hate insurance companies, feel sorry for doctors. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #18 |
48. Unfortunately, even if the US gets universal health care, |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
148. I thought all doctors took Hippocratic oath. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:15 PM Response to Reply #148 |
162. It's really irrelevant. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #162 |
222. LOL, so your point was irrelevant..... |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #222 |
227. That obviously wasn't the point of the post. |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #227 |
233. well it was another undocumented slam at doctors... so it is releveant in that regard |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:33 PM Response to Reply #222 |
241. sad, isn't it? |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:16 PM Response to Reply #48 |
179. So your problem is with average Americans, then, not doctors? |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
19. I like doctors, it is the "medical industry" that I loathe. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #19 |
98. It is insane. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
21. my life too -- has been saved by doctors and modern medicine. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
24. When do the anti-lawyer threads get quashed? |
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Felinity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. Please explain |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. This one is an orthopedic surgeon |
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Felinity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Still asking |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Yes. It is a major institution (Northwestern Memorial Hospital) |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #39 |
100. Hubby doesn't get nearly that. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:08 PM Response to Reply #100 |
121. Then he's an exception. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #100 |
133. Nope, nor does mine. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:16 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. Is greed measured by what someone earns? |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. No market at play here |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
51. It's interesting how people believe |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #51 |
78. I think those same people... |
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terisan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
25. Tell your spouse thank you for going into the profession and serving people. nt |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
26. Good post. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:06 PM Response to Original message |
27. I have so many doctors in my family |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
31. The Anti- doctor-drugs-science crowd here is most disheartening |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
41. Actually the pro-doctor crowd |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Obviously medical malpractice is bad. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #44 |
58. You can't possibly know that doctors are competent, good-intentioned people. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. "Mistakes are common"? How common is medical malpractice among |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. 100,000 people are killed by doctors each year. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:55 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. You failed to answer the question. What percentage of doctors are guilty |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:53 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. Yes, you're right. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Actually, it's a fact that most victims of medical malpractice do not sue. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
106. That's not entirely true. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. There are good doctors. Your husband might be one of them. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #108 |
114. I don't think he's as rare as you make him out to be. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #114 |
117. I've never been to a good doctor in my adult life. And I've been to dozens and dozens in the last |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:33 PM Response to Reply #117 |
132. No offense, but you sound like an unsatisfied hypochondriac. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:37 PM Response to Reply #132 |
137. Well, you're wrong. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:49 PM Response to Reply #137 |
196. Well, NEENER, NEENER, NEENER to YOU too. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #67 |
134. The doctor's lives go on as nothing had happened? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #134 |
138. I've experienced it first hand. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #138 |
169. Which is... (wait for it)... |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #134 |
140. The doctor of death I know actually receives rewards now. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:44 PM Response to Reply #140 |
145. Possibly your claim that he or she is a "Doctor of Death" is slander. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Have I mentioned his name? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:48 PM Response to Reply #146 |
151. Nope - but it doesn't mean your charge is accurate. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:51 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. Well, you don't know the situation. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. No, but I know how quick you were to misrepresent the study you |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #155 |
157. That's because standard procedure |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:05 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. You are making up more BS about "standard procedure". Now you're |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #159 |
160. Are doctors required to tell patients about side-effects? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:18 PM Response to Reply #160 |
164. Canyou decide whether you actually believe the study you referred to or not? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #164 |
178. .... |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:57 PM Response to Reply #178 |
262. Is this the "anyone can be thin" poster? I have him on Ignore so |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 11:18 PM Response to Reply #262 |
264. Yup. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #264 |
267. Just as I thought! |
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pookieblue (517 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:28 AM Response to Reply #262 |
274. same person |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:18 PM Response to Reply #157 |
180. Actually |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:38 AM Response to Reply #180 |
275. Sometimes there are rare side effects, but that isn't the doctors fault |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #140 |
170. Would that be more anecdotal evidence? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:48 PM Response to Reply #41 |
176. I will tell you |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:51 PM Response to Reply #41 |
225. Is your DU name.. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 11:32 AM Response to Reply #41 |
291. The "Pro-Doctor" crowd? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
32. Murderers are people, too. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:23 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Oh yeah right - doctors = murderers. For fuck's sake. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
42. You don't read closely enough to appreciate the point obviously. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. And what percentage of doctors are guilty of medical malpractice? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Most medical malpractice is covered up, and goes unreported. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Then how do you know it is covered up and unerported? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. If I go to the trouble of referencing scholarly research |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Yeah, I would. I would like to see the proof of unreported and covered up malpractice. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. Then please answer the question. What percentage of doctors are |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. That didn't answer the question. n/t |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Huh? Isn't that kind of an easy claim to make? |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. No. Really. You are going to have to provide some links for that. n/t |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:39 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. That is rebutting a very specific argument, |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. I didn't call doctors murderers. Some are though. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Two things: |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I am calling the doctors who kill 100,000 human beings each year murderers. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:56 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Which doctors are those, and how do you suppotr your allegation that |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:02 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. ? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:06 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. "Medical mistakes" are not all medical malpractice. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I believe this was brought up by AEI during Baker's presentation there. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:11 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Until you can start substantiating your claims, nothing you have |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:13 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Doctors kill 100,000 people/year. That's a fact. Most victims of doctors do not sue. That's a fact. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:14 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. If these are "facts" they should be easy to substantiate. Please do so. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. I already have. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:16 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Repeating "it's a fact" is not substantiation. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. But referencing a book and a study is... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:23 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. No, it's not. It's just referencing a book and a study. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. One published by the academically prestigious University of Chicago is though. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. The report was by the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Science. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
104. I saw the link to the book, but I don't think that is very compelling. Could you please cite the AEI |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:54 PM Response to Reply #104 |
110. The findings of the report are different than being presented here. See my post (#102) and the link. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. I have a feeling you'll like what the neocon thinktank the American Enterprise Institute |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:59 PM Response to Reply #112 |
115. I just want some facts, not overblown rhetoric. I don't have a dog in this fight. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. see my post #102. Hyperbole in health care discussions is a frequent pitfall, from |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #118 |
120. This finding isn't different. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #120 |
124. I think you miss the point. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:35 PM Response to Reply #124 |
135. So doctors, collectively, aren't responsible for the system of care? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #135 |
139. No, they're not. They are part of the system, but only part. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:18 PM Response to Reply #120 |
125. self delete. I have some glitch, apparently, in posting. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #120 |
130. Yes it is. The report says medical malpractice ISN'T pervasive. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #118 |
122. It also doesn't contradict the fact that Baker points out: Most victims of doctors do not sue. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #122 |
126. It contradicts your entire cockamamie position. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:05 PM Response to Reply #115 |
119. Um, yes I have. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #119 |
131. WHAT FACTS?? WHICH POST?? Can you at least give me a post number |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #71 |
103. That is a link to a book excerpt which has has no supporting citations. n/t |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. Murder? Really? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:05 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. The English language lacks a word to describe what incompetent doctors do |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Then you're not worth further discussion. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #72 |
141. The word you're looking for is 'manslaughter' |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:46 PM Response to Reply #141 |
149. No. |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:18 PM Response to Reply #54 |
85. With malice aforethought? |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:38 PM Response to Reply #85 |
99. Well, |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #85 |
105. In addition, |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:43 PM Response to Reply #54 |
102. Seems you may have misread the key findings, or misinterpreted them: |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:24 PM Response to Reply #49 |
255. We shouldn't wait on malpractice suits |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:28 PM Response to Reply #42 |
128. You get asked for stats, and you post a book by someone with an ax to grind. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:58 PM Response to Reply #128 |
156. When Ann Coulter gets published by a prestigious university like the University of Chicago, |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #156 |
165. You have misrepesented the findings of the study, in a very Coulterish way. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #156 |
194. Then you have my sympathies. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:55 PM Response to Reply #194 |
198. This one looks interesting. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #194 |
215. Republicans--not Democrats--generally hate lawyers... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:32 PM Response to Reply #215 |
240. Oh bull puckey. All the way around. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 05:27 AM Response to Reply #215 |
273. welcome to my IGNORE list. |
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Exiled in America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #32 |
292. This is the kind of hyperbolic comparison that kills serious discussion. |
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DrunkenMaster (582 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
33. You Can't Stop Free Expression With Whining |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. Yes, people are allowed to be ignorant dicks. |
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renie408 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Good luck with that. n/t |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #33 |
69. Fortunately we can always just tune out the crazies with the ignore feature |
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Reciprocity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
91. What whining? We have threads that support causes all the time here. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:52 PM Response to Reply #33 |
107. People whine here all the time. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #107 |
123. People even have the gall to whine about parents who don't help pay for their son's MD. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:56 PM Response to Reply #33 |
113. I guess it's a matter of interpretation. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #33 |
143. Doesn't sound too much to me to ask people to be civil. |
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Reciprocity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
37. K&R |
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cobalt1999 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
43. I think you're hearing the bad only due to the idea of mandatory visits. |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
74. I don't know what this is about particularly, |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:53 PM Response to Reply #74 |
109. I know that it's not personal, but it does get to me over time. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #109 |
168. 120. |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
79. Put the blame where is justly lies. At the feet of Pharmaceuticals and Medical Insurance providers. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #79 |
82. Bushco blame it on lawyers, not doctors... |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:41 PM Response to Reply #82 |
101. right he was making the argument for award caps. thaks. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
97. Hear, hear |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
111. Try being a minister when we get a flood of "religion's the root of all the world's woes" posts. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #111 |
127. But suppose |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. I repeat: SHOW ME YOUR FINDING. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #129 |
144. The book is published by the University of Chicago. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #144 |
147. It has already been proven that you have misrepresented the |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #147 |
150. 100,000 people are killed by doctors each year. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. Your facts are bullshit. |
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AnotherGreenWorld (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #152 |
154. Every word is a prejudice. |
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pinto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:43 PM Response to Reply #150 |
181. BS. Those deaths are due to errors throughout the system. |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #144 |
166. It doesn't matter who published it. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:42 PM Response to Reply #144 |
195. The same wonderful folks who publish THIS jewel of knowledge: |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:57 PM Response to Reply #127 |
172. I'm not sure why you are asking me, or anyone, the last question. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:02 PM Response to Reply #111 |
200. As a Christian, I hear ya on that, too. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:07 PM Response to Reply #111 |
230. OMG -- you're a minister??? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:35 PM Response to Reply #230 |
256. I think s/he perfoms them--or at least civil unions or whatever the state allows. n/t |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #256 |
263. Actually, I was just joking -- she's a friend of mine |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:11 AM Response to Reply #256 |
277. Sadly, my state doesn't allow them. BUT... |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #230 |
276. My stance? I usually stand up front with the couple facing one another. |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
116. Thanks, knitter4democracy |
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MsRedacted (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
136. Amen. Medicine is as much of an art as a science. Doctors are put in awful |
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erinlough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
158. Try being a teacher in the public school and feeling |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #158 |
203. My mom's a retired public high school teacher. |
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erinlough (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #203 |
210. Thanks the socks would be appreciated here in cold |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #210 |
221. I'm in Michigan, too. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #158 |
265. It's a relief when you stop teaching and are no longer |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:26 PM Response to Reply #158 |
298. "you're" nt |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 03:17 PM Response to Original message |
163. I agree. Most doctors really care and work very hard. |
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softwarevotingtrail (107 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:07 PM Response to Reply #163 |
173. General practitioners are an anachronism |
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NC_Nurse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. There are more and more NP's and PA's filling the general practioner |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #174 |
209. Yes. PA's are most welcome in my husband's practice. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 11:07 PM Response to Reply #209 |
302. Mine too. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:59 PM Response to Reply #173 |
177. My husband is |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:09 PM Response to Reply #177 |
205. Hubby felt the same way about internal medicine. |
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midlife_mo_Jo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:12 PM Response to Reply #173 |
190. No thanks |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:17 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. Welcome to DU and I agree, different levels of education can do different things. |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:42 PM Response to Reply #190 |
258. I think that's a good idea too |
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Kat 333 (312 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 02:10 AM Response to Reply #173 |
271. Be Careful What You Wish For ... |
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kimmerspixelated (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
175. I apologize profusely |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #175 |
206. Heck, I'm mad at Pharma and the FDA, too. |
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Gelliebeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
182. You thank your husband for me |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:13 PM Response to Reply #182 |
208. You're so right. Thank you. |
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MUSTANG_2004 (688 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
183. But some problems are caused by doctors |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #183 |
211. Yes, there are bad doctors. I know of a few. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
184. Insulting an entire profession is ridiculous. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:19 PM Response to Original message |
185. Docs are great! |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
186. My neighbor is a doctor. |
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onewholaughsatfools (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
188. Kitty well said |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 06:59 PM Response to Original message |
189. Well said, k&r |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
192. i was under the impression that the viral corporatists have been |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:40 PM Response to Reply #192 |
193. That wouldn't surprise me. eom |
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HannibalBarca (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
197. Well the same goes for us Pharmacists |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 07:58 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. Pharmacists are a necessary but over worked part of the medical/health care system |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #197 |
214. Thank you for your work. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
201. I'm with anyone who acknowledges that "frivolous lawsuits" are a fictional artifact... |
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VLC (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:16 PM Response to Reply #201 |
212. A lawyer told me once that it's near impossible for a normal person to sue a doctor |
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likesmountains 52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #212 |
226. Some lawyers will take on malpractice case on a "you only pay if we win" basis.. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:23 PM Response to Reply #226 |
237. Which is why there are essentially NO frivolous suits - the lawyers won't take a bad case. |
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VLC (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:29 PM Response to Reply #237 |
239. Or cases that won't win enough to cover their expenses. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:08 PM Response to Reply #212 |
231. Oh, that's great: "It'll go in his file." |
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VLC (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:24 PM Response to Reply #231 |
238. I hear ya! |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:51 AM Response to Reply #238 |
270. Yes, you have to read up on all your meds |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:28 AM Response to Reply #231 |
280. Not all of them cover for each other. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #280 |
293. They got rid of a cardiologist here after he very nearly killed a friend |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 05:34 PM Response to Reply #293 |
296. I'm so sorry for your friend. |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:17 AM Response to Reply #296 |
304. You're just living in the wrong part of the country |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:17 AM Response to Reply #304 |
305. I'm a former teacher, and I hear ya on teaching. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:17 PM Response to Reply #212 |
234. That is not true |
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VLC (487 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:20 PM Response to Reply #234 |
235. It is absolutely true that's what I was told. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #235 |
236. It has to do with |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:37 PM Response to Reply #235 |
243. The doctor has little say in what to do, court or settle. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:21 PM Response to Reply #201 |
216. They are fiction. Said so in JAMA and AMNews. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:40 PM Response to Reply #216 |
224. Yup, and they don't police themselves, and.... etc. ad nauseum. |
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likesmountains 52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
202. Good luck is right...I work in rural health care and can tell you that there are a very , very few |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:06 PM Response to Reply #202 |
204. Yup. |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #202 |
213. Good post. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #202 |
217. I grew up in a rural area. Thank you for doing what you do. |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
207. Some Doctors are |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #207 |
220. Thanks. I think he is. |
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OhioChick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #220 |
223. Having a Chronically Ill Child and Seeing Many Physicians..... |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:03 PM Response to Reply #223 |
228. I plan on it. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:11 PM Response to Reply #220 |
232. I bet he charges people who don't show up for appointments, too |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #232 |
279. I needed that today. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
242. Can doctors stop all of the nasty preventable medical errors? Same answer. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:39 PM Response to Reply #242 |
244. Broadbrush bashing of all because some are bad is wrong. No matter what profession. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:43 PM Response to Reply #244 |
245. They commit the errors, they protect the error makers. Screw em.... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:46 PM Response to Reply #245 |
247. Some are bad. Had a cousin killed by malpractice. Most are not. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #247 |
248. They insist on freedom without responsibility - common thread in all 3 professions... |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #248 |
252. Lawyers, Federal Workers, Cars salesmen, Food processors, computer makers, newspapers, water/sewage |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:48 PM Response to Reply #245 |
250. Did you get a PhD in |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #250 |
251. Nah. Philosophy. Close, though. :) |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #242 |
282. They do their best. |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
246. Thank you for posting this. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 09:48 PM Response to Original message |
249. I'm a lawyer so |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #249 |
283. It shouldn't be, though. |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #249 |
290. Lawyers suck worse than Doctors |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:03 PM Response to Original message |
253. We lead the world in medical mistakes because of our crappy information sharing |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Sep-04-07 10:13 PM Response to Reply #253 |
254. Then there is the problem of specialists not being able to coordinate care too. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #253 |
284. Single Payer Now!! |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
266. who is trashing doctors? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #266 |
286. That Edwards gaff produced some nasty threads. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:39 PM Response to Reply #286 |
297. OH TELL ME ABOUT IT |
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Hoof Hearted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
268. Thanks knitter! I'm headed into med school in a couple years. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:34 AM Response to Reply #268 |
287. Yay! Go to Case Western! |
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Swamp Rat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 01:16 AM Response to Original message |
269. This is the first thread about "anti-doctor crap" I have ever seen on DU, |
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DemBones DemBones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 02:42 AM Response to Reply #269 |
272. I don't remember any, either, |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:36 AM Response to Reply #269 |
288. Bill Frist doesn't count, that jerk. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
281. Lawyers get it worse than ANYONE. Who cares? You need to toughen up. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:38 AM Response to Reply #281 |
289. And they shouldn't. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #281 |
310. Yup, that's what we need---more toughness. |
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Beelzebud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
285. Can we please stop trying to limit free speech? |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #285 |
311. That's right! Say whatever comes to mind, and to hell with |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
295. You must never have tried to get decent medical care where I live. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:56 PM Response to Reply #295 |
299. Hell, I'd be pissed, too! |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:36 PM Response to Reply #299 |
312. Thanks. I'm scheduled for a CT scan this morning. |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:08 PM Response to Reply #299 |
313. I think the balance of power needs to be shifted to the patient. |
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AX10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
300. I agree. The AMA is a horrible pro-corporate crime ring. |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #300 |
303. Fewer than half belong to the AMA. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
308. Remember the days of students rating profs? |
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knitter4democracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #308 |
309. There are several websites. |
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