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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:35 PM Original message |
What The Hell Is Going On?-Staging Nukes For Iran? By Larry Johnson (Updated) |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
1. We're screwn... n/t |
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motocicleta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:07 PM Original message |
so screwn |
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Generator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. Super duper screwn |
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Roland99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:03 AM Response to Reply #1 |
58. Are you saying this is HUGH?!!? |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:55 AM Response to Reply #58 |
102. Way hugh... I'm series!!!1!!! eom |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. Intentionally leaked information to send a message to our 'foes'. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. Oh - that message was directly to us. |
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skids (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:55 PM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Yeah I'm on the fence about whether the leak was intentional... |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:04 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. I guess I am a little prejudiced about the thing - |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:58 AM Response to Reply #36 |
62. The Leakers Gained Their Souls; The Worst They Can Lose Is Their Lives |
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Cobalt-60 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:49 AM Response to Reply #32 |
52. Intentional |
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screembloodymurder (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:28 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. I agree. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #52 |
73. Leaker or planter. Cheap stunt may say nearly all. The imagination |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #2 |
103. what the hell are our foes supposed to do? they are not even doing anything |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #103 |
122. I thought the exact same thing about Iraq! |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
3. How many times must a question be asked... |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:50 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Aha Batman.... we've been duped by the Riddler!!!! n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #11 |
83. Nice to see someone on DU still has an intact sense of humor |
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Spazito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
20. I'd rather see multiple threads on this than I am seeing on the |
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Done (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
79. Amen nt |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
82. They all belong in the September 11 forum |
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pacalo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
48. This is the first thread I've seen about this. |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:17 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. I agree n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:08 AM Response to Reply #3 |
60. Deleted message |
Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
4. We spoke about this yesterday. |
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Megahurtz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. I Just Hope This News |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:09 PM Response to Reply #9 |
38. especially when faced w cornered rats w possible war crimes charges hanging |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. Sure it is - it is the ultimate threat. |
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Mr Rabble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
28. Sure. That much is obvious. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. It is insane - |
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peacebird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
5. o.m.g. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
6. Last night I went DRY RUN |
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zippy890 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
7. someone..trying to warn the American people'?? |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. Or somebody setting up an excuse for the Air Force to hold a Stand Down? |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:37 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Ptech's software and Air Force, FAA, DoD, WH, DoJ, younameit... |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
49. why, the dick |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:08 AM Response to Reply #49 |
76. The best of the best is probably available. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:45 AM Response to Reply #14 |
57. I would say something snarky, like... |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
100. it is very odd that this ever became public knowledge--no doubt someone made a conscious effort |
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Raksha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. The leaker could be signaling to us that it WILL come down to a coup, |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. I think it is a heads up - |
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MissWaverly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:32 PM Response to Reply #8 |
27. me too, I think there's a chill wind right now |
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Purveyor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. K&R The 'talkback' section for this article is worth reading. Some interesting stuff there... n/t |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:58 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. This comment was interesting: |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:29 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. Nice post -and dead on the money. |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. Oh - doesn't it really mean that the kids are "turning out" |
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Annces (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
15. Somebody pull out their crystal ball n/t |
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Joe for Clark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. That is not right - you think somebody is going to hand you a |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
23. The Air Force scares me. All those Rapture Ready Fundies in the brass |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:14 AM Response to Reply #23 |
77. They scare me too. -nt |
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texanshatingbush (435 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #23 |
95. I wholeheartedly agree with you....... |
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coco77 (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:38 PM Response to Reply #95 |
119. They are taking there orders from... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
24. I didn't handle this material |
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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
25. some telling comments at: |
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coco77 (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
120. Just think about what we don't know... |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #25 |
132. WHY WERE THE NUKES ON BOARD!?!? |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
26. Larry Johnson is a busy man. |
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Flarney (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #26 |
67. That would explain his contract holdout...he had too much on his plate for training camp... n/t |
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Wiley50 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
29. Malloy Opened His Show With This Story Tonight n/t |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
33. I have read that these are low-yield nukes in the 5-150 kt range. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
59. one-third to ten times Nagasaki or HIroshima |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:05 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. So, what would it do in Iran and the neighborhood? For how many |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:03 AM Response to Reply #75 |
97. Depends on where it hit |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:00 PM Response to Reply #97 |
113. And my theory - that our 'owners' want the melting water of the |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
34. Let me add another link |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #34 |
92. It appears that original story has been scrubbed |
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lyonn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #92 |
131. The lady officer telling the story |
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guruoo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #131 |
134. The author put her in danger.... |
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burrowowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:03 PM Response to Original message |
35. I have a hard time believing |
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populistdriven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
37. Barksdale Air Force Base, LA was our first strike base for Iraq in 91 |
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jimshoes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:22 PM Response to Original message |
39. Pssst george, and especially you DICK! |
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Phrogman (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
40. I think these "Iran attack preparation" leaks are designed to scare Americans...... |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
41. The two main goals for the Iran war will be: |
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kineneb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 11:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. re: #2 |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:24 AM Response to Reply #41 |
80. And the barons will have achieved their other objective - |
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FourScore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:09 PM Response to Original message |
42. K&R |
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CGowen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
43. Do we know what kind of nukes they were ? |
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Snazzy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Sep-05-07 10:52 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. w-80 dial-a-nuke |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:22 AM Response to Original message |
46. This is something I felt back in January. |
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JohnyCanuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:35 AM Response to Reply #46 |
51. Not only that, |
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Eurobabe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:32 AM Response to Reply #46 |
65. Bush is one SICK fuck, if he gives the go ahead |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:33 AM Response to Reply #65 |
84. And Chency could drop by his heart the next day. |
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McCamy Taylor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 01:28 AM Response to Original message |
47. Is it time to put peace keepers in Iran that we know for sure Cheney and * |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 05:12 AM Response to Reply #47 |
61. Iran has a much better life insurance policy: China |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:18 PM Response to Reply #61 |
109. and Russia |
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pingzing58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:00 AM Response to Original message |
53. This story should not go away until the truth is known. Excellent, thanks. |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:28 AM Response to Original message |
55. K&R. i don't remember olbermann talking about this (on wednesday) n/t |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:36 AM Response to Reply #55 |
72. He didn't and I was very disappointed. It was up at Huff Po and it seems he |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #72 |
88. Waiting to get more info? |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #88 |
89. I just emailed him asking him to host Larry Johnson as a guest tonight. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Good deed! Johnson is very sane but not blind. |
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donkeyotay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #72 |
99. I saw the story on teevee yesterday, but the facts were different |
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orleans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:00 AM Response to Reply #72 |
133. story ran on cnn thursday--at least as a crawl n/t |
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colorado_ufo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:32 AM Response to Original message |
56. Let us all refresh our memories about Barksdale and 9/11! |
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Joanne98 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:10 AM Response to Original message |
63. Has anybody asked the "Christians" yet! George Bush's Praetorian Guard |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:10 AM Response to Reply #63 |
93. While we watched sports and serials and shopped, these |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
64. I worked on nukes in the navy too. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:44 AM Response to Reply #64 |
85. You're probably right, and speaking of the Navy... |
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mikeyj84 (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 06:59 AM Response to Original message |
66. B-52/Nukes |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:22 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Hmm |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #66 |
86. If they had any intention of using them but decided not to, then why... |
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PianoBlack (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
68. This is..... |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:16 PM Response to Reply #68 |
130. Bush is poisoning the well. He knows damned well no Repubican |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
70. What if? |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:27 AM Response to Original message |
71. This article is somewhat ridiculous. |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:15 AM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Thank you. |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:51 AM Response to Reply #71 |
87. If you read commentary you would discover the troubling aspect is the disregard for strict |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:49 AM Response to Reply #87 |
101. Yes, that is certainly troubling. But |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:06 PM Response to Reply #101 |
106. LJ poses"Maybe there is an innocent explanation for this"-but he can think of one. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:15 PM Response to Reply #106 |
108. Given the incredible logistical strains on the military, |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #108 |
111. If you are incorrect and this was a covert action by a rogue element and the the jobs |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:58 PM Response to Reply #111 |
126. If I am incorrect, |
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ColonelTom (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:25 AM Response to Reply #71 |
94. What, me worry? |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:59 AM Response to Reply #94 |
105. What benefit is there to doing this? |
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ColonelTom (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #105 |
117. What, do you think this was an accident? |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:55 PM Response to Reply #117 |
125. Yes, actually, I do. |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:04 PM Response to Reply #71 |
115. From what I read, it wouldn't be long range nukes that will be used |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #115 |
128. The RNEP "Bunker-buster nuke" was never developed. |
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ToeBot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
74. Has anyone questioned the responsible commanders about their "Precious bodily fluids"? nt |
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ColonelTom (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
81. Reversal of long-standing U.S. policy |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
90. Moving these by B-52s is disturbing. |
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TexasLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
96. kick |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
98. This story is Psy Ops against Iran and the American People |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
104. there should be Congressional Hearings on this |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:14 PM Response to Reply #104 |
107. No, Congress has much bigger fish to fry |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
110. bigger than nuking Iran??? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 12:58 PM Response to Reply #110 |
112. Any possible contemplated nuking of Iran has nothing to do with the B-52 incident |
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bos1 (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #104 |
121. Agreed. just the massive SNAFU |
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debbierlus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:02 PM Response to Original message |
114. Good point. I can't believe this didn't occur to me! |
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msedano (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
116. sure it can happen out of pure stupidity |
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bos1 (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:32 PM Response to Reply #116 |
123. "slim pickens". Ha. I get it. |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
118. the best we can do is NOT assume anything... |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 03:53 PM Response to Reply #118 |
124. It's funny, I was only thinking this afternoon, maybe it will take a |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:01 PM Response to Reply #124 |
127. Wasn't it you KCabot, who recently quoted Einstein: |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Sep-06-07 04:15 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. It was, mod mom, and I'd been regretting all day that I hadn't added |
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