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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:37 AM Original message |
Is it me or was Ronald Reagan most overrated politican in history |
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King Coal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Reagan was a manager. He couldn't find his own ass. Puppet City Bingo. |
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flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. Overrated? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
3. Way overrated. Especially considering he suffered from dementia in office. |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:30 AM Response to Reply #3 |
38. which was an open secret in dc. |
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Possumpoint (937 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
4. I Agree |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
5. Soon to be followed by an attempted repeat Fluffing of Fred. |
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Sherman A1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. YES! |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
7. Would you be happier if Reagan had been more like Napoleon? |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
13. I think General Clark is an exception to your hypothesis |
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Boojatta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
18. General Clark is not like Napoleon in any sense that I can think |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:59 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. One General who comes to mind |
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BrklynLib at work (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #19 |
56. and it was EISENHOWER who warned of the military/industrial complex. |
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BrainGlutton (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #7 |
36. I'd say a military career followed by a political career is better. |
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JitterbugPerfume (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. Reagan was invented |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
25. On the button jitterbug. He was a wholly owned subsidiary |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
9. A lucky as hell puppet |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
10. He was literally a legend in his own time. n/t |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:56 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Don't you mean 'legend in his own mind'.....if he had one... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
11. The deification ceremonies put it over the top for me. |
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Caria (241 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
51. I saw VERY different coverage of the funeral |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:05 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. I'm glad the truth is on record somewhere. |
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BrklynLib at work (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
66. And what about his destruction of unions...e.g. The air traffic controllers... |
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porphyrian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:24 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Oh yeah, my list wasn't conclusive. |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
12. Not overrated if you like fascism. |
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BOSSHOG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
14. dubya gives him a run for his money about being overrated |
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Left Is Write (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
15. Ronald Reagan was an actor. For him, the presidency was just another role to play. |
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Blue_Roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
16. Yes. |
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Pool Hall Ace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
20. I was first eligible to vote in 1980. |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
21. Yes. Plus he was a war-mongering scumbag that fucked the poor over any chance he got... |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:08 AM Response to Original message |
22. Don't forget he shut down many of our nations |
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Netbeavis (291 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:24 AM Response to Original message |
23. The further we get from Reagan, the more the GOP builds him up. |
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MatrixEscape (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:25 AM Response to Original message |
24. Overatted in regards to benefits ... |
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A Brand New World (803 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
26. IMHO he was just an actor playing a role and poorly at that! |
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Bitwit1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
27. Over rated over rated over rated |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
28. reagan and company should have been jailed for Iran Contra |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
29. Except for one thing: He convinced republicans that Americans were stupid enough.... |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:51 AM Response to Original message |
30. Social security paid for me and my sibs to go to college. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
31. Overrated doesn't cover it. Reimagined might be more accurate. |
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tom_paine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
32. Of course he was...he was the Prototype of the Lying Bushler today |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
33. Yes, he is definitely the most highly overrated President... |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:29 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. his campaign manager was bill casey. |
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coco77 (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:51 PM Response to Reply #33 |
60. That's the way I always have seen it... |
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terip64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
34. I don't recall. |
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snappyturtle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:27 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Thank you....that's a perfect comeback AND funny! nt |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
39. clinton by far the most over rated-nafta and what he left in his wake |
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Poiuyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:34 AM Response to Original message |
40. I've wondered who is responsible for the Reagan myth? |
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BrklynLib at work (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:34 PM Response to Reply #40 |
70. Michael Deaver was the mastermind behind the curtain. |
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Kablooie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
41. He was great at creating a genial image and introducing people to jellybellys. |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
42. No, it's not you |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
43. The republicans are desperate for their own JFK. |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. well, I think JFK is overrated, too |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
44. his bigotry and cruelty are UNDER rated. |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
45. He's alright... |
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ramapo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:43 AM Response to Original message |
46. He was an excellent politician...few were better |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
47. Politician? No, President? Yes |
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Major Hogwash (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
48. Reagan paved the way for Bush Junior - a figurehead for a President - what a concept! |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
49. Second only to Dubya. And yes I know Dubya's approval rating is in the twenties. |
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BrklynLib at work (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
52. He had the greatest PR man a prez ever had. Michael Deaver even produced RR's funeral before he |
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Hawaii Hiker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Welcome to DU Brklyn Lib |
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BrklynLib at work (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Thanks Hawaii Hiker. Very glad to be here. |
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spindoctor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
53. This video shows how Reagan was perceived in Europe |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
55. Totally overrated |
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Prophet 451 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
57. But, but, HE WON THE COLD WAR!!!111!1!!! n/t |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
58. As president blowhard, he was typecast. But the special effects crew |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
61. I think it's about 25-30 years too early to tell |
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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
62. Don't tell the Repugs that...I'm convinced they're going to exhume him and prop him up onstage..... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
63. Reagan learned how to play to an audience in acting school. |
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DFW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
64. National Airport--now and forever !! |
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Tommy_Carcetti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
65. Abso-friggen-lutely |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Sep-07-07 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
67. Raygun got people dead at home and abroad. |
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