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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:42 AM
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Democrats For Nixon
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 09:49 AM by WileEcoyote
Uh just kidding. Clearly Nixon was evil and had a warped view of the world.

However he was at least COMPETENT! With Tricky Dick you had a guy who was bright, articulate and understood politics and Congress. I'm gonna guess he was well read too. He sure was one hell of a poker player. The kind who would have won the "World Series Of Poker" a few times.

Now no one here would ascribe the above qualities to the current idiot in chief...

Any of us old enough here to remember "CREP'S" "Democrats For Nixon"? Probably the'72 campaign I can't remember exactly which one but it was a total sham. the typical GOP "Dirty tricks" campaign. Donald Segretti was likely at the head of it. Or some other bottom feeder. All the people whom Karl Rove learned his trade from.

And yet despite his huge character flaws Nixon was known for at least a few good things. Well one or two for sure the others debatable.

Banned use of Compound 1080 (Sodium Flouroacteate) a "varmint killer" but essentially a weapon of mass destruction.

Implemented the EPA.

Those are the only two I can think of that most of us would agree on. The only reason he did the above was because he had a full Democratic Congress pushing him for action.

The other reflects personal bias: Giving Golda Meir the F-14 jets to win the Yom Kippur War of 1973.

My kids are the result of an Israeli woman who may have been killed had the Arab forces destroyed Israel in 1973. Thus personal bias explained...

We could say possibly that Nixon's travel to China was smart. Again: He at least UNDERSTOOD the concept of diplomacy.

Nixon may have helped establish the "Death Valley National Monument" but again I could be wrong. It's a National Park now anyway thanks to the end of the 1994 Congress (and the activism of WileECoyote in small part).

If you've read so far here's what Tricky Dick had to say about Fred Thompson:

Moreover, new transcripts from the Nixon White House tapes reveal that the Nixon administration regarded Thompson as a useful idiot -- "dumb as hell," in President Nixon's words, but "friendly." At one point, the White House counsel told Nixon that Thompson insisted he wanted to help the president more than his patron and boss on the committee, Sen. Howard Baker, R-Tenn, would let him.


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=3447219&page=1

Dick: Some of us Democrats actually DO miss you.

(Wiley chuckles)
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:44 AM
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1. You don't know what you got till it's gone
Nixon came out of a generation that hadn't absorbed the message of Goldwater that Government was evil and couldn't do anything - unlike most Republicans he actually believed that Government had a role in modern society.

Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:46 AM
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2. Kicked America off on the wonderful healthcare system we enjoy today.
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:51 AM
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3. Oh agreed
Remember i was a kid and Nixon was trying to send my big brother to Vietnam. It tore our family to pieces with worry.

We hated the SOB for sure...
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:55 AM
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4. Personally, I like Nixon (and a few you missed)
As a man, he was a collection of personal flaws on legs. He was a bastard. But, as a president, he wasn't bad.

His foreign policy was downright masterful; as far away from Bush as one could possibly get.

1. China.

2. Détante.

3. SALT

4. (debatable). He extracted us from Vietnam, albeit in a slow and ineffective way. His expansion of the bombing campaign was downright cruel and unnecessary, but Vietnamization was a withdrawal plan that could attract bipartisan support.

His domestic policy was often liberal.

1. EPA, as you point out.

2. OSHA.

3. indexed Social Security for inflation.

4. created the SSI.

5. Legacy of Parks program.

6. Created the Philadelphia Plan, the first real affirmative action program.

As a man, there's a lot to hate. As a president, there's a lot to like.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:56 AM
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5. Compared to Bush, Nixon wasn't so bad.
Bumper sticker on my car.

Lately, it's really been pissing off some right wingers. I get the third finger salute a lot, but I also get lots of thumbs up, too. Way more thumbs up than salutes.

The right wingers are coming unglued.

One guy said something crappy to me about it in a parking lot a few weeks back, and I just turned around, smiled at him, and said, "Keep drinking that Kool-Aid and telling yourself that everything is OK."

That shut him up.
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spindoctor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 09:57 AM
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6. Jews for Hitler
This Administration makes you long for the Nixon years? Yea, compared to the Asian tsunami of 2005, Katrina was a breeze.

Let's raise a monument for Nixon because "He wasn't so bad compared to Bush".
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Hangingon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 10:18 AM
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7. Was there anyone RMN didn't think was "dumb as hell"?
I remember Democrats for Nixon. John Connally was a leader. The Nixon tapes are full of insults to people and racial groups - he was an equal opportunity bigot. Having said that he did accomplish a great deal before circling the wagons after Watergate.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:41 AM
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8. nixon formalized ''trade'' as an arrow in the quiver of u.s.
foreign policy.

in short -- he laid the groundwork that we curse reagan and the bushes and yes -- clinton -- for today.

nixon is the ''father'' of the corporate oligarchy we all have to live with -- where does government end and the corporation begin?



oh well.
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