GOP Congressman's death ruled accidental....

LiberalHeart

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:28 PM
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GOP Congressman's death ruled accidental....

Medical examiner: Ohio's Paul Gillmor died of head and neck trauma, consistent with a fall down the stairs. Police: no foul play suspected.

http://wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=7039765

Toxicology results not in yet, but his death has been certified accidental.

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Virginia Dare

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:30 PM
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1. Huh?

:tinfoilhat: :yoiks:

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sabbat hunter

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:31 PM
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2. in other words

he was probably drunk, fell down the stairs and broke his neck.

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CaliforniaPeggy

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:35 PM
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5. Unless you know his history...

I would be cautious making such a statement...

Just sayin'...

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sabbat hunter

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Fri Sep-07-07 07:19 PM
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13. if you were a republican congressman

who supported the bush regime, wouldnt you be suspected of drinking too? :P

but in all seriousness, I was more speculating on what the final report will be after the toxicology reports come back.

although he just as easily could have had a heart attack, fell down the stairs and broke his neck.

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Ghost in the Machine

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:41 PM
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8. Got a spare hat? Why did they wait so long to tell this?

OOh, I'm nosey, I want to see the police report now. Was he found ON the stairs? At the bottom? How was he dressed? Did he trip over a rug? A cat?

Was he on Larry Flynt's list from the DC Madam's phone lists? Did he get a phone call about this? If so, did his wife know yet? If she did, where was she that night? :evilgrin: Hey, might as well feed them all, huh?? LOL!

:hi:

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LiberalHeart

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:45 PM
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11. This from Fox Toledo....

Dr. Constance DiAngello, Assistant Chief Medical Examiner for the Commonwealth of Virginia in Fairfax, said in a report released Friday that Congressman Paul Gillmor "showed significant injury to the head consistent with a fall down stairs."

Steve Gomez, spokesperson for the Arlington (Va.) County Police Department tells FOX Toledo News that Mr. Gillmor's death appears to be accidental.

"What the doctor told our detectives, the congressman had blunt force trauma to the head and neck," Gomez says. "We have not officially closed the investigation but we have found no foul play."

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Ghost in the Machine

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Fri Sep-07-07 07:23 PM
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14. "We have not officially closed the investigation but we have found no foul play."

They also find dead(murdered) bodies in homes with "no signs of forced entry"... which usually means the person knew and/or trusted the attacker and let them in.

*If* I were to don my tinfoil hat, I could say that he had a visitor there whom he trusted (wife, hooker, pizza delivery guy) and they could have given him a shove down the stairs (which would leave no signs of struggle if the person was walking behind him to go down the stairs), then simply walked past the body and let themselves out. No sign of forced entry, no signs of foul play....

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hang a left

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Fri Sep-07-07 08:04 PM
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20. "Consistent With...."

Consistent with someone really strong breaking his neck??

Consistent with someone throwing him down the stairs??

Consistent with a suicidal person twisting their own neck??

What are all the actualities that this type of injury could be consistent with??

It is just the curiousness in me.

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Richard Steele

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:33 PM
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3. I thought they suspected a heart attack, now he fell down the stairs? How odd. nm

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LiberalHeart

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:34 PM
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4. Yes, everyone was saying heart attack at first.

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Richard Steele

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Fri Sep-07-07 07:25 PM
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15. That makes no damn sense.

If I found a corpse with a broken neck
at the bottom of a stairway, I doubt I
would think "heart attack".

I think there's a serious power struggle
going on behind the scenes right now, and
"We the People" are only allowed fleeting
glimpses of it.

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zbdent

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Fri Sep-07-07 07:45 PM
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17. Robert Heinlein once put it (I believe it was in "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress") that

almost every death could be termed "heart failure" ...

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Richard Steele

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Fri Sep-07-07 08:12 PM
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21. Jimmy Breslin had a play on that concept in "The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight"...

As I remember it, it was something like:

"He died in his sleep, of heart failure.... his heart
stopped beating when several men entered his bedroom
and stuck knives into it."

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Virginia Dare

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:37 PM
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6. My thoughts too, this is quite a shock..

:wow:

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SmokingJacket

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:40 PM
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7. That is a surprise.

Why did they say it was a heart attack if he was found at the bottom of some stairs with a broken neck??

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Ghost in the Machine

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:43 PM
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9. He was having symptoms of a heart attack and tried to make it down

the stairs to a phone?? :shrug:

Maybe they wanted to investigate without publicizing the facts first?

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liberaltrucker

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Fri Sep-07-07 06:45 PM
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10. They couldn't talk him into a small plane?

:tinfoilhat:

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mitchum

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Fri Sep-07-07 07:11 PM
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12. Was he listening to INXS?

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Roy

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Fri Sep-07-07 07:31 PM
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16. Just lay him over in the corner.......

Next to the young woman from Scarborough's office.
And move on.....

Sounds like they just needed a few days to get a story pieced together that might be believable.

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pansypoo53219

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Fri Sep-07-07 07:50 PM
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18. if only

georgie was that clumsy.

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soothsayer

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Fri Sep-07-07 07:59 PM
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19. uh oh. At least it wasn't a fall out the window or the roof , but it sure sounds

suspicious now!

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OzarkDem

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Fri Sep-07-07 08:14 PM
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22. Gillmor was a very loyal GOP soldier

Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 08:16 PM by OzarkDem

there isn't much reason to believe there would be foul play.

He followed their agenda willingly, he was a died in the wool conservative.

He also wasn't the ambitious type, he did his job in Congress for many years and had no higher aspirations. His family owned banks, he was very wealthy in his own right.

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