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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:06 PM
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Mos Def is bananas!
I was watching Real Time and he was crazy. Somethings was pretty far out there, but I have to admit he did make some good points and he was definitely entertaining.

Is it just me or does Bill seems to be uncomfortable when he is the minority in the company of blacks? I know Mos Def was probably as high as kite tonight but I have noticed this discomfort before when he his had more than one black panelist.
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:19 PM
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1. I can't wait to see this
Go Mos Def!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:20 PM
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2. I love Mos Def ~ didn't see Real Time
Edited on Fri Sep-07-07 11:21 PM by goclark
How did you know he was High?

Is this an all the time thing for him?

I hope not, he is so talented.

As far as Bill is concerned, he should feel very comfortable with minorities. He had a African American girlfriend for a while. Think he even bought her a house next to his in Beverly Hills.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:28 PM
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3. Weeded out
more than likely. Cornell West was on the panel also, but Mos Def came out with guns blasting. You should have seen the look on Bill's face.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:19 AM
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20. Did he make a complete fool of himself?
I hope not.

What about Kanye ~ did he do a good job?

I will always love him for saying, " George Bush doesn't like Black people."
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mduffy31 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:09 PM
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23. He kind of did
He was hard to even understand sometimes.
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:29 PM
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4. I thought Maher handled it with grace
and of course, humor. Denying we put a man on the moon was hilarious ...
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:33 PM
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5. Bigfoot
He did say he believed in Bigfoot
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Fredda Weinberg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:37 PM
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7. And then he stuck his tongue out. I got it ...
and so did Maher
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:35 PM
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6. First, I don't think he was high, except for being high on being able to get all of these
pent up thoughts out there. Yes, he was scattered, many times, but I looked at it as being exuberance in getting heard. He was still great!

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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:44 PM
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8. and Refreshing
most times the guests suck up to Bill and change their opinions midstream when he challenges them on it. Mos Def wasn't having it!!!

Basically he didn't give a F*&K!!! That was refreshing. Go Mos Def!!!!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:20 PM
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25. Glad to hear that ~ he is a brilliant actor

Is there a video of Maher up yet?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:13 PM
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28. I just this minute got
through seeing Mos Def in 16 Blocks and remembered there was a thread on him last night..something about him being "bananas" so I came back and found it. Glad he's "bananas" in a good way :)

He was soooo Good in that movie with Bruce Willis..they had me bawlin' my eyes out. It was all about how "people Can change" and I'm a sucker for that!
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:47 PM
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9. I like him. Bananas and all.
:-)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 08:15 PM
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29. I'd never seen him
before the dvd, 16 Blocks, I just got through seeing..he was damn good in that flick.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:49 PM
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10. Yah
you know white people...we are so intimidated when bad english is spoken around us. WTF
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:52 PM
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11. Thx for the info
always wondered, but not all black people speak bad english. Some of us are clean and articulate, just ask Joe Biden.
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 04:08 PM
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22. lol
good one
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:56 PM
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12. I think he was hitting on one spark plug, the rest were out in space.
He did make sense on some things, but I think he might have been smoking before he came on. Bill Maher always looks serious when they cut back to him. He didn't have two black person on last week and he wasn't smiling when they switched to him. And I heard today that he was going to have a question and answer. It scrolled across the screen to stay tuned and then they showed another program. What happened. Does anybody know.
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angee_is_mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-07-07 11:59 PM
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13. HBO website
I believe they do the Q&A online only.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:00 AM
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14. A YouTube link to Mos Def's "Mathematics."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycJ5m5Mt9JE

From the album "Black on Both Sides."

Booka-booka-booka-booka-booka-booka
Ha hah
You know the deal
It's just me yo
Beats by Su-Primo for all of my peoples, negroes and latinos
and even the gringos

Yo, check it one for Charlie Hustle, two for Steady Rock
Three for the fourth comin live, future shock
It's five dimensions, six senses
Seven firmaments of heaven to hell, 8 Million Stories to tell
Nine planets faithfully keep in orbit
with the probable tenth, the universe expands length
The body of my text posess extra strength
Power-liftin powerless up, out of this, towerin inferno
My ink so hot it burn through the journal
I'm blacker than midnight on Broadway and Myrtle
Hip-Hop past all your tall social hurdles
like the nationwide projects, prison-industry complex
Broken glass wall better keep your alarm set
Streets too loud to ever hear freedom sing
Say evacuate your sleep, it's dangerous to dream
but you chain cats get they CHA-POW, who dead now
Killin fields need blood to graze the cash cow
It's a number game, but shit don't add up somehow
Like I got, sixteen to thirty-two bars to rock it
but only 15% of profits, ever see my pockets like
sixty-nine billion in the last twenty years
spent on national defense but folks still live in fear like
nearly half of America's largest cities is one-quarter black
That's why they gave Ricky Ross all the crack
Sixteen ounces to a pound, twenty more to a ki
A five minute sentence hearing and you no longer free
40% of Americans own a cell phone
so they can hear, everything that you say when you ain't home
I guess, Michael Jackson was right, "You Are Not Alone"
Rock your hardhat black cause you in the Terrordome
full of hard niggaz, large niggaz, dice tumblers
Young teens and prison greens facin life numbers
Crack mothers, crack babies and AIDS patients
Young bloods can't spell but they could rock you in PlayStation
This new math is whippin motherfuckers ass
You wanna know how to rhyme you better learn how to add
It's mathematics

Yo, it's one universal law but two sides to every story
Three strikes and you be in for life, manditory
Four MC's murdered in the last four years
I ain't tryin to be the fifth one, the millenium is here
Yo it's 6 Million Ways to Die, from the seven deadly thrills
Eight-year olds gettin found with 9 mill's
It's 10 P.M., where your seeds at? What's the deal
He on the hill puffin krill to keep they belly filled
Light in the ass with heavy steel, sights on the pretty shit in life
Young soldiers tryin to earn they next stripe
When the average minimum wage is $5.15
You best believe you gotta find a new ground to get cream
The white unemployment rate, is nearly more than triple for black
so frontliners got they gun in your back
Bubblin crack, jewel theft and robbery to combat poverty
and end up in the global jail economy
Stiffer stipulations attached to each sentence
Budget cutbacks but increased police presence
And even if you get out of prison still livin
join the other five million under state supervision
This is business, no faces just lines and statistics
from your phone, your zip code, to S-S-I digits
The system break man child and women into figures
Two columns for who is, and who ain't niggaz
Numbers is hardly real and they never have feelings
but you push too hard, even numbers got limits
Why did one straw break the camel's back? Here's the secret:
the million other straws underneath it - it's all mathematics
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bliss_eternal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:29 AM
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16. ....!
:loveya:
Sorry that I missed seeing him.
I no longer watch Maher's sorry ass--but may have tuned in to see Mos.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:20 AM
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15. I think Maher enjoyed him and liked challenging him. At first I thought
Mos Def was going to add no value to the conversation, but I was proven wrong. Why not doubt the moon landing or USB or the 9-11 WTC attack or Bigfoot? Don't believe the official story, don't deny it. I may not agree with him, but I always like when someone of influence encourages doubt.
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ourbluenation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 12:34 AM
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17. I'm with you...Bill was right at home and clearly felt free to say whatever the hell he wanted.
took mos to task on his religion (muslim). The Prof makes my head spin though...it's hard for me to follow his statements, my guess is it because he's about 1000 times smarter than yours truly.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:07 AM
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18. Ditto, ditto, ditto. The prof drove me nuts because sometimes too
many metaphors are too many metaphors. He doesn't have to dress up his points to make them. They stand fine just as they are (nekkid, as he said).
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themaguffin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:16 PM
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24. a few great points, but then goes out there with some shit
it actually annoyed me at times, which is too bad because again, there were some good points to be made, but then it got ridiculous with some remarks.

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Yupster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 01:33 AM
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19. Or it could be because
the professor's statements arejust head-spinningly hard to follow.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 09:25 AM
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21. I hope there's video
I love Mos Def - most definitely!
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:24 PM
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27. Love him a lot too!

Not so much his music but his acting.
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:24 PM
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26. i thought Maher did just fine as did the panel...
and Cornel is always a treat :)
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