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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:20 PM
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One more Circuit City thought. (I don't usually get into these things..but..)
It seems to me that at the point of Sale, I would be the owner of the merchandise and the Sales slip.

1. I mean, if after paying for a new IPod (at Circuit City) I could...before going out the door... twist the IPod into a useless mess and there would be no consequence.....the useless hunk of broken screen and plastic is mine....all mine.

2. If the above is correct ...then what would be the differance between wanting to see my IPod and something I already have on me?...It is just as much mine as the broken IPod....and why should circuit city have the right to inspect something they (at that point in time) Have
NOTHING to do with? ...it is simply not theirs...Yes, it WAS yours...now it's mine and no you can't touch it, examine it or whatever...it is Mine. :)
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:23 PM
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1. Heaven forbid you enjoy your iPod while shopping ... for a TV at Circuit City.
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 05:24 PM by TahitiNut
You thief! :rofl: (I carry all my receipts along with my personal possessions wherever I go. Doesn't everyone?)

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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:38 PM
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2. Let's say your kid invites a friend to your house.
You don't know the friend that well. When the friend leaves, he's carrying a briefcase that looks exactly like yours, and you know he didn't have it when he came in.

You can ask him where he got the briefcase, or just assume he wouldn't be walking out with it if it wasn't his?

Did you hear the story last month about the man who went into Walmart, bought a big screen television, paid for it in a self-checkout line, and was stopped at the door by the greeter? He had switched the tags, and paid like five bucks for it. Did the greeter have the right to examine his receipt, since he had paid for the television?
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:45 PM
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3. Let's say you then grab the kid and lock him in a closet
while you figure out who's briefcase it is.

Even if it turns out it was your briefcase after all, you're still in deep shit.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 05:50 PM
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4. Yes, but you wouldn't be in any trouble if you simply blocked the kid from getting in his car
until he opened the briefcase and showed you it was his. Especially if you let the kid use his cell phone to call the cops.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:15 PM
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6. So he calls the cops,
Edited on Sat Sep-08-07 06:18 PM by Xipe Totec
then he shows it was his briefcase after all, and the cops lock him up anyway.

Now you're in deeper shit, and so are the cops.


Oh, and by the way, it is still unlawful imprisonment if you block the kid from getting in his car. If you physically prevented him from leaving, you have imprisoned him.


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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:00 PM
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5. Even deeper shit
if like Schrödinger's cat he may or may not be in the closet when you go to find him.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:19 PM
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8. That story smells to high heaven.
How can you pay for something as large as a big screen TV in the self-checkout line? You couldn't scan it. And those lines are observed by a store clerk, who would have had the right to stop him right then.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:18 PM
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7. It just is what it is.. The stores want to make sure that you don't have something
extra to put in that bag as you leave the store.. Receipt has 4 items, and you have 5 in the bag..

It's also a way to curtail scheming regarding the employees.. They could deactivate the security tag, but not ring up a device for their friend..

if you do not want to possibly submit your purchases for inspection, just do what I do..
go to google.. type in "no tax free shipping", and whatever you want to buy ..You'll have your stuff brought to your house in a few days, and no one will inspect the box or your receipt :evilgrin:
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:23 PM
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9. Once again, it is not about showing the receipt
it is about what the store can and cannot legally do to enforce the store's policy.

Everybody here understands what the store is trying to accomplish. The question is, what legal right does the store have to detain a citizen without probable cause.

Remember, the rent-a-cop never accused the guy of stealing, never claimed the guy had store's property in his bag. He just demanded to see the receipt and the contents of the bag. There was no probable cause, it was a blind check.

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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:30 PM
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11. I'm sure the chain has a legal department.. but if this gets to court
there will be a decision that should end the controversy.. I would never go to CC anyway :)
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:35 PM
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12. Indeed!
I don't go to CC, but that's because they have crappy products and high prices.

CC is not that different in policy from other major chains. I bet if we checked CC's stated corporate policy, we'd find that holding customers without verifiable proof of theft is a firing offense.

:hi:

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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:27 PM
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10. This is a good topic for identifying the "corporations before e people" contingent. n/t
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:41 PM
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14. I wonder how many would voluntarily submit to a strip-search
... besides Larry Craig. :evilgrin:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 10:42 PM
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15. "If you've done nothing wrong, you shouldn't have anything to hide".
"It's only a minor inconvenience, and if it helps prevent crime..."

:rofl:



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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:02 AM
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16. There seem to be many here who'd only complain about a strip-search ...
... if it didn't include a cavity-search ... to show what Good Shoppers they are. Maybe it's one of the rare times another human shows personal interest in them?? Sad.

:shrug: Well, off to the showers.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-08-07 06:39 PM
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13. You're right
The contract has been completed. You forked over the money, they forked over the goods.

If any of their employees stops you after that, it is no different from any other stranger trying to stop you in the street.

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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-10-07 02:07 AM
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17. Simple solution - make the receipt checkers the people that bag your purchase
:)
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