Air Force Orders Stand Down For US on Sept 14

ACC orders command-wide stand-down on Sept. 14

By Bruce Rolfsen - Staff writer
Posted : Saturday Sep 8, 2007 8:31:15 EDT

On Sept. 14, flight lines will be very quiet at Air Combat Command bases.

The entire command — about 100,000 active-duty airmen — is standing down training flights and many other operations as part of a command-wide safety day.

Command boss Gen. Ronald Keys ordered the Sept. 14 safety stand-down in the wake of the Aug. 30 nuclear incident at Minot Air Force Base, N.D., in which six cruise missiles armed with nuclear warheads were loaded onto a B-52H and then flown to Barksdale Air Force Base, La., without anyone on the ground or bomber realizing the nuclear weapons were on the plane. It was not until the B-52H was parked at Barksdale that ground crews discovered the cruise missiles were carrying real warheads.

Command spokesman Maj. Tom Crosson said wing commanders would determine how their units review operations and safety procedures and checklists.

Just how serious Keys takes the lapse of regulations at Minot is reflected in the fact that the safety stand-down is the first command-wide safety day in recent memory. In the past, the command has singled out specific types of aircraft for safety days and in 1997 the Department of Defense held a department-wide safety review day.

http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_aircombatcommand_standdown_070807/

Does this effect every single military plane in the U.S.?

How widespread is this? What are the implications?

:shrug:

I'd like to know as well.

http://tinyurl.com/2f48nq


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planes ??? if thats the case this is a MAJOR screwup

or our Military has security problems with their Nukes
:nuke:

God forbid we stop any suicide planes from invading restricted air space.

flying that day. NORAD still operates its space surveillance and missle warning systems from there as well.

I'm sure they'll be sitting around drinking coffee talking about the Michigan game...status quo. :)

The Major Commands of the Air Force are:

Air Combat Command (the 1992 union of Strategic Air Command and Tactical Air Command)
Air Education and Training Command
Air Force Materiel Command
Air Force Reserve Command
Air Force Space Command
Air Force Special Operations Command
Air Mobility Command (the reorganized Military Airlift Command)
Pacific Air Forces
US Air Forces in Europe

The US part of NORAD (it's a US-Canadian joint command) is a separate entity. They will continue with routine operations.

Okay, I'm looking at this subordination chart. PACAF and USAFE are outside the continental United States. No one else on that list is going to have a hell of a lot of armed airplanes.

Now, having said that, if the duty officer at Burpelson Air Force Base picks up the phone and General Turgidson at the other end tells him, "Osama bin Laden just crossed the Mexican border in a King Air stuffed full of Semtex, send someone out there to light his ass up," someone will go out there to light his ass up. It's not like they're taking the airplanes apart or anything.

and makes one wonder who is in CHARGE of the Military???

The real screw-up was when this idiot was appointed. And then when large numbers of voters displayed their own cluelessness by re-affirming him.

Doesn't smell right.

Six.

That's insane.

Makes MIHOP seem less and less likely though...

Kinda odd. Kinda REALLY ODD.

It was said that the missiles were not armed and could not explode. At the time my reply was that these assholes have never heard of Murphy's Law or SNAFU.

I knew that his would happen

Interesting. Didn't that happen with the initial report of the nuclear "incident" as well?

Via Google: http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=46e3c26203d21c29&ei=jPXjRuuZDJuYafvPkIoJ&url=http%3A//www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/09/airforce_aircombatcommand_standdown_070807/&cid=1120386395



Here is the blurb from the Google search page:

...do occur. After a particularly heinous accident involving a rogue pilot and a B-52, the USAF stood down for a 24-hour period.

Here's the video that was taken of the accident, which occurred during a practice sortie for an airshow:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=E21byPXR1ek

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Isn't that the site DUers can only refer to as the site that cannot be named?

on 11/22/63 of the military detail which (almost) always protects the President. There was also an exercise on 9/11/01 as well, such that Officers in Charge were asking, "Is this Real?"

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070908/wl_nm/germany_security_dc_1

By Erik Kirschbaum
Sat Sep 8, 12:30 PM ET



BERLIN (Reuters) - Three suspected Islamist militants who were planning to attack American targets in Germany had orders to act by September 15 and knew police were hot on their trail before their arrest, a magazine said on Saturday.

....and suddenly our government is ordering a full "stand down" of our air defenses.........................

:scared:

in the field.

From www.acc.af.mil:



This is no small deal at all, although who knows what the result will be...

ummmmm our military would be on high alert ....... like ummm given this ogga booga booga date Sept 11th ........ ummmmmm so the powers that be decide to do a major freaking stand down on the 14th .... Okay I feel much safer .... NOT. :scared:

:wtf: are they thinking? Or planning? All I can say is :wtf:

Here's a response to the announcement on another link ....

FMNN Feedbacker A Magnus has questions:

Ummm, hello? Are you people freaking out of your minds? Why would you announce to the whole world that your air defenses will be down on a specific date? Isn't that like inviting terrorists or any other would-be super power by saying "Come on down - it's not guarded!" -A Magnus, regular FMNN Feedbacker (Revised)

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=48646

been carried to the staging area, so a stand down means nothig. Is Bu$hCo plaaning a NUKE drop on Iran?

only to get this message: That page has gone AWOL!

404 Error: File not found. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmm?