Sure, you can wait to impeach *, but do you want to?

Why should he, he was the selected president in both 2000 and 2004, no wonder he has no interest in anything outside the
oval office.

Isn't this at the heart the same argument that Bush himself used to create the reason you want to impeach him?

Just asking...

:shrug:

and such

not a made up one.
IMHO

Is it that real?

If it's that real do you really think impeachment is going to solve it?

And what is your alternative method to "solve it?"

Or are you claiming that complicity has been working out just dandy so far?

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But if it's that much of a threat, starting an impeachment trial isn't going to cut it. If it's so much of a threat that the entire world population hangs in the balance, the real solution isn't going to come from a congressional action. There's only one solution for that level of threat, and it involves the lot of us taking to the streets of Washington, fully armed. If you want to talk about that, fine. If you want to talk about impeachment being the only way to stop to a president determined to start WWIII, then I'm afraid I will have to laugh at you.

As I've said before, I'm not opposed to impeachment, so long as it is done right. Scaremongering is only going to make things worse IMO. No one is going to be won over by that poster - they'll simply think "extremist" and move on.

And what are you proposing these fully armed street-takers aim at, impeachment posters?

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IF you believe that Bush is determined to start WWII with nuclear weapons, then why are you talking about impeachment? IF you believe that Bush may start a nuclear exchange, then why aren't you actively trying to take him out? If you really think the situation is a dire as you are making it out to be, then impeachment isn't going to cut it.

You are talking about an absolute, undenyable, complete end to civilization, and you're using it as an argument for...impeachment. In comparison, it's like talking about stopping the Zodiac killer with a traffic ticket.

I am not recommending that we try to assinate the president. I am also not trying to convince everyone that Bush is going to end the world either. If you really do believe that, you have only one course in front of you.

I find that unlikely, as I've said very little. In fact, I've merely asked a few snippety questions.

And btw, David "Son of Sam" Berkowitz was stopped with a traffic ticket. The Zodiac case remains unsolved, so a traffic ticket may yet be his undoing.

I know that Impeachment for Torture and War Crimes has far more potential to "cut it" than mindless, violent suicide.

Your mileage may vary.

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Be obtuse if you want, my point is still valid. You and the poster are trying to scaremonger. If you really believe that the situation is as you describe, and/or as the poster describes, i.e. a nuclear war is approaching because of Bush, then quit fucking around with impeachment discussions. The situation the poster describes is an ultimate and immediate life-or-death situation. THERE IS NO TIME TO PURSUE IMPEACHMENT, if that's the case. It is blatantly silly to bring up Berkowitz as if that is a viable method to control Bush. that was an ACCIDENT. So, a nuclear war is on the horizon, and you want to stop it with an accidental legal procedure? If Bush is bound and determined to start a nuclear exchange, why should an impeachment hearing stop him?

This is scaremongering. This is no different than those in the administration arguing to invade Iraq because "we can't let the smoking gun take the form of a mushroom cloud." If you want to argue impeachment, do it honestly. Scaring people is no better from our side than it is from theirs.

I only ask because you claim to know these things. Do I have time to finish this post?

In any case, impeachment is neither accidental nor a legal procedure. It is a prophylactic Constitutional political process that endeavors to move bushcheney away from the sharp objects (and the nuclear buttons).

It is also our only moral, patriotic option.

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You're the one that claims that the poster is reasonable, and not scaremongering. That's been my point all along.

So since you have been so far unable to talk about my arguments, and instead only try to project the weaknesses in your arguments onto me, I'm going to make fun of you.

The lack of specifics makes it seem like your "point all along" is being kept under your hat.

And you're more than welcome to make fun of me. I'm just not seeing the fun part yet.

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Fantastic (scary) pic!

I can't recommend but I can still :kick: it!