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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:26 PM
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$ Millions for elite athletes, death or deportation for day laborers.
Once again $-connected corporations avoid responsibility and bask in the sunlight of prosperity. Why can't they be held accountable? Illegal immigration highlights headlines, yet nothing really affects the real beneficiaries. As one corporate entity after another passes the buck, the poor suffer. Where is Democratic leadership?

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/beaconnews/news/548529,2_1_AU09_GOLFDEATH_S1.article

Snip> Tiger Woods and his competitors are in the hunt for a $10 million prize -- the richest purse in golf history -- at the BMW Championship tournament at Lemont's Cog Hill Golf & Country Club this weekend. Elizabeth Soriano, 17, Fernando Hernandez, 27, and a dozen other immigrant day laborers were chasing a humbler version of the American dream when they walked the willow-shaded links Labor Day morning.

Snip>But Soriano and Hernandez never got a chance to collect their paychecks. As they were riding home at lunchtime on Interstate 55 near the DuPage-Will county line, the van started shaking, veered across a lane, hit a guardrail, flipped on its side and crashed, according to Illinois State Police.

Snip>The driver, Karina Salgado, 27, was charged with driving uninsured and without a license. She and three of her passengers now face deportation for being in the country illegally, according to U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement spokeswoman Gail Montenegro.

Snip>Waste Management spokesman Bill Plunkett said the deaths were "a tragic accident" but the workers -- who wore green Waste Management polo shirts while on duty -- actually were employees of Barton Staffing Services, an Aurora-based temporary worker agency.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:34 PM
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1. everyone walks away but the dead

http://www.bartonstaffing.com/services.html
Barton Staffing Solutions, Inc..........Services We Provide

"Your people did a great job; once again Barton Staffing came
through!”- Katie S. - Event Coordinator - Event Cleaning Services"..
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:39 PM
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2. WTF does Tiger Woods have to do with this?
Corporations make fortunes off Tiger Woods and other star athletes. But you think that the athletes should NOT be compensated proportionally? And movie stars who command huge box office should NOT make millions for creating work that gives jobs for thousands? Just to continue your bizarre and disconnected argument?

Aren't you saying that someone not born rich has no right to achieve it thru any action of his own...as long as anyone else is poor? So that achievement is wrong...only being born rich counts?

Because that, ducky, seems to be your argument.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:49 PM
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4. WTF! Where did you get that?
I write about corporate greed and irresponsibility. They bask in the sunlight of Tiger and other athlete's accomplishments. They compensate the athletes handsomely to appear generous while sharing nothing with those that keep the facade shiny. My argument is that these corporations should lose their fame and fortune rather than have the workers demonized for seeking a sliver of the American pie.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:54 PM
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6. corporations make fortunes off star athletes?
Is that really true? I see Tiger advertising cars. Does he really sell enough extra cars to make up for the cost of having him in the ad? Or perhaps with Michael Jordan, he used his celebrity status to lure people into buying expensive shoes. Surely that makes him a benefactor of mankind almost as much as Jonas Salk and he should be rewarded appropriately. Tiger Woods does not create jobs - consumer spending creates jobs. However, money is like electricity - it has to go somewhere. If money was not spent watching Tiger Woods, then it would be spent or invested in other things, creating just as many jobs. They would just be different jobs not involving the socially beneficial work of putting little white balls into randomly placed holes in turf.
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cherokeeprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:56 PM
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14. Tiger Woods was NOT born rich. eom
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:39 PM
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3. interesting juxtaposition
but what do you want the Democratic leadership to do? I think it's a very tangled and touchy situation. I don't even want to mess with it on this discussion board, much less if I was in political office.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:53 PM
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5. I want Democratic leadership to demand Corporate responsibility.
The trend is to grant corporations the same rights as citizens and to treat them as such. Then why not hold them responsible for their hiring practices? Confiscate their property and profits, the same as is done to citizens who conspire to break laws. Why do you think polls show such contempt for Congress?
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 12:56 PM
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7. Athletes, Actors, Inventors...
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 12:57 PM by stillcool47
and the other very few that luck out through incredible gifts of talent or extraordinary feats are not the problem. Pitting those few, against the corporations that make money off of slave labor, and global repression is typically media-esque. Lay the blame at the feet of anyone else, but don't rock the corporate trough that feeds us.
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:03 PM
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8. ?
Read the OP again, "Once again $-connected corporations avoid responsibility and bask in the sunlight of prosperity."
Read post #4.
The only point to the large purse is that the money is there. Using cheap labor has no economic justification at all. It is corporate greed and irresponsibility, nothing else.
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:36 PM
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10. I don't see the correlation between
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 01:55 PM by stillcool47
the few gifted people that manage to rise to the top, by making money off their talent and corporate greed The fact that corporations use sport events to advertise, or sponsor athletes doesn't strike me as a good example of corporate greed either. And..using cheap labor has every economic justification..it's the only one. I guess I'm missing... not getting... something here.
edit to add...went back and read the article. Still not making sense. I don't understand why those who are invited to a certain event with the often remote possibility of making money for their talent, should be somehow tainted or responsible for how the managers of a golf club chooses and pays it's employees to perform maintenance on it's course. It would seem to me club members would bear that responsibility.
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Totally Committed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 01:08 PM
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9. What's the word that comes to mind?.... Oh, yeah, PRIORITIES.
And these days, the U.S.'s S U C K.

TC


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Hawaii Hiker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:06 PM
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11. Hey, I'm watching NFL right now, & I know
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 02:07 PM by Hawaii Hiker
I could NEVER do what those guys do, nor would I have the guts to play pro football....Their careers are short & they should make as much money as they can..

I have no problems with athletes or movie star earnings..

The one thing I think that IS f-ing awful is what happened recently at Circuit City....3,400 workers were let go because they made to much (and by making too much were talking under $25.00/hr. and < but at the same time the CEO made millions upon millions....I have a real problem when companies fire workers or give paltry raises while upper management gets ALL the money...That's fucking wrong..

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:18 PM
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12. Whose van was it, anyway?
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 03:00 PM by rocknation
(The driver's)...7-year-old son...said his mother routinely was picked up in a bus and driven to day jobs...she was only driving Monday because the work crew's normal driver was sick...

On a corner a few blocks from Salgado's and Soriano's homes, van loads of day laborers again were being bused to jobs. A man who identified himself as being in charge of the operation said he had "no idea" who had hired the Cog Hill workers.


Does he have any idea of who hired HIM???

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rocknation
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-09-07 02:47 PM
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13. Round and round and round she goes
Edited on Sun Sep-09-07 02:49 PM by rocknation
Contacted last week, Cog Hill duty manager Jim Maltis said the workers had "nothing to do with" the golf club. "Call the WGA, they do all the hiring," he said.

...Gary Holaway, spokesman for the Western Golf Association, which organizes the BMW Championship, said the workers...had "nothing to do with" the WGA. "They were working for Waste Management," he said...(T)he workers...wore green Waste Management polo shirts while on duty...

Waste Management spokesman Bill Plunkett said...(they) actually were employees of Barton Staffing Services, an Aurora-based temporary worker agency.

Bill Barton, vice president of the temp agency...declined to comment on how the workers had come to be hired, citing "privacy" concerns.


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